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Jan 03, 2017 19:50 |  #1

Sorry, yet another post on straps!
Currently looking at the Black Rapid Sport (used one near me) and a new Peak Design Slide.

Use: Carry 7DII with grip & either a 70-200 2.8 or 17-50 2.8 lens.
Want: Ability to easily swap anchor point from camera to tripod mount on 70-200 when I switch.

I like the versatility of the Peak Design, but concerned about it's comfort compared to a neoprene neck / shoulder strap (I currently have a neoprene Tamrac strap - absorbs movement nicely, but getting old (20 years easily - concern of neoprene wear). Especially in hot climates.

I like the shape and fit (although I haven't tried it yet) of the Black Rapid. Not as cray about one point of fixation though.

Anyone had / have both?

Can anyone with Peak design slide comment on how they carry a 70-200 and comfort over days of carrying it?

Thanks!!
A belt system, while I really like them, isn't something I'd consider at this time - so sling or strap system...


I have a photographic memory, just wish I'd remember to take the lens cap off more often! :oops:
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Jan 03, 2017 20:18 |  #2

I own a Slide and am very happy with it. I shoot a lot at my daughter's softball games and on a given tournament weekend, can shoot 3 or more games per day. My main rig for the games is my 1D mkiii and 100-400L and 70-200 f4. When I want to walk around, the strap lets me slide the camera and lens around so it hangs at the small of my back. I can move freely as the rig isn't bouncing around off my thighs or in the way of my hand. The strap is somewhat wide, and padded at the top where it sits over your shoulder or around your neck so it doesn't dig into you. The 1D and 100-400 can get heavy but it's not a problem with this set up. It's easy to reach down and bring the camera up to shoot when you're ready.
The anchor attachment links are a nice touch as they clip to the camera lugs and the included tripod plate for a variety of configurations. The strap just clips onto the anchors and unclips in a snap to take the strap off while the anchors stay affixed to your camera. The tripod plate is arca-swiss compatible and you don't have to remove the anchor or strap to clamp it into your tripod head.
Adjusting the length is a breeze.

That's my $.02


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Jan 03, 2017 20:25 as a reply to  @ wyntastr's post |  #3

Thanks for the input!!!
The ability to easily adjust positions was also a nice feature of the PD.
They are on sale at the local shop, so I may have to check it out tomorrow.

Do you mount one of the lugs or tripod mount to the 100-400 or 70-200 or just to the body?


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Jan 03, 2017 20:29 |  #4

I have a blackrapid curve I use with my 7d2 & 150-500/70-200 sigmas. I picked up a screw in mount for each lens with a foot and my camera body to speed up changes. The rubber gasket on the lens/body mounts stays tight. The clip has a double lock on it and works very well.

Saves my neck with heavy lenses. It still looks brand new after lots of hard use.


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Jan 03, 2017 20:32 |  #5

DrMitch wrote in post #18232319 (external link)
Sorry, yet another post on straps!
Currently looking at the Black Rapid Sport (used one near me) and a new Peak Design Slide.

Use: Carry 7DII with grip & either a 70-200 2.8 or 17-50 2.8 lens.
Want: Ability to easily swap anchor point from camera to tripod mount on 70-200 when I switch.

I like the versatility of the Peak Design, but concerned about it's comfort compared to a neoprene neck / shoulder strap (I currently have a neoprene Tamrac strap - absorbs movement nicely, but getting old (20 years easily - concern of neoprene wear). Especially in hot climates.

I like the shape and fit (although I haven't tried it yet) of the Black Rapid. Not as cray about one point of fixation though.

Anyone had / have both?

Can anyone with Peak design slide comment on how they carry a 70-200 and comfort over days of carrying it?

Thanks!!
A belt system, while I really like them, isn't something I'd consider at this time - so sling or strap system...

I don't have the Slide, I just have the older Leash; but I absolutely love the entire PD system. I regularly carry a 7DII + 100-400 using the Leash and can carry it all day with no discomfort. I started out my carry solutions using the BR straps of various flavors and they work 'ok' but taking up the tripod mount with something that you had to screw off to set up on a tripod was a PITA, and the later attachments were still "fiddly", to me. From there, I tried the Cotton Carrier for a while, but the vest got hot and the method of "locking' for the puck wasn't something I felt was reliable long term (had several instances of the puck loosening, inadvertently).

The Slide may be better for comfort, for sure; but I mostly use the clip on a shoulder mount except for really light days; when I'll switch to the Leash. I really like the CC system because the attachment mechanisms are such that they're all "positive" lock points and can't just "fall" off. You have to actively disengage the various points, with some intention. I've had the CC system since its original inception and have had one of the original attachment pucks (finally) wear out about 3mo ago; and they've improved the wrapping of the cable for those since then to make wear more obvious. As a bonus, the CC straps have 2 pts of contact, so you can attach one end to the body and one end to the lens when you're shooting the larger telephotos (70-200/300, 100-400, T/S 150-600, etc).


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Jan 03, 2017 21:01 as a reply to  @ DrMitch's post |  #6

I use two attachment points on the body. One on the left lug and one on the lug on the bottom of the 1D cameras. This gives me the same feel as if it is used with a tripod plate. I don't use the tripod or monopod at the fields because I'm constantly moving around. I suppose one could mount the tripod plate to the lens foot on the 100-400 and have one anchor point on the lens and the other on the camera. I may try that out to see how comfortable it is. Are you wondering about an extra measure of safety for the lens? I've never felt like the lens was dangling about and never worried about it coming off.
I have read threads where folks using a BR style sling worried about the tripod mounting hole pulling out of the bottom of the body under stress and would attach a backup "safety" clip from the strap to the lens foot on big lenses. The bottom lug on the 1D allows me to skip using the attachment point on the tripod plate even if I had one mounted, plus the alloy body isn't going to fail at that point.
I do use the attachment point on the tripod plate when I am carrying my 60D however, but I never thought of the body failing there and the tripod mount pulling out.


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Jan 03, 2017 21:07 |  #7

So to offer another solution, how about the spider holster?

I have the black rapid dual strap, the peak design capture pro and pro pad and went with the spider holster.

The cameras, especially with a flash mounted, don't swing as much, or hit the floor when I kneel.




  
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Jan 03, 2017 21:12 |  #8

I just purchased the slide, clutch, capture pro... love them so far. Picking up my 15" bag tomorrow. What I like about them is I can use all three items at once




  
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Jan 03, 2017 21:21 |  #9

wyntastr wrote in post #18232399 (external link)
I use two attachment points on the body. One on the left lug and one on the lug on the bottom of the 1D cameras. This gives me the same feel as if it is used with a tripod plate. I don't use the tripod or monopod at the fields because I'm constantly moving around. I suppose one could mount the tripod plate to the lens foot on the 100-400 and have one anchor point on the lens and the other on the camera. I may try that out to see how comfortable it is. Are you wondering about an extra measure of safety for the lens? I've never felt like the lens was dangling about and never worried about it coming off.
I have read threads where folks using a BR style sling worried about the tripod mounting hole pulling out of the bottom of the body under stress and would attach a backup "safety" clip from the strap to the lens foot on big lenses. The bottom lug on the 1D allows me to skip using the attachment point on the tripod plate even if I had one mounted, plus the alloy body isn't going to fail at that point.
I do use the attachment point on the tripod plate when I am carrying my 60D however, but I never thought of the body failing there and the tripod mount pulling out.

The plate on the tripod collar is precisely how I do the mounting; it works great.


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Jan 04, 2017 10:57 |  #10

Here is my review on the Slide - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …e-camera-sling-strap.html (external link); Slide Summit Edition - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …n-camera-sling-strap.html (external link)

I prefer the Peak Design strap. Even though it is nylon webbing (like a seat belt) it is very comfortable. Not to mention, it doesn't occupy the 1/4-20 on the bottom of the camera or tripod plate. So I can actually mount my camera onto the tripod without having to take the strap off.

When I had the BlackRapid, I had to either take off the strap or unmount it from the camera. When I had the Custom SLR M-Plate - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …-plate-pro-universal.html (external link). I didn't have to worry about it since it offset the location of the mount.

With the Peak Design, you can use three anchors; one on the left side of the camera (when viewed from the back), one on the bottom of the camera (when tripod foot is available) and one on the tripod foot when you're using it. So if you're using the 70-200, clip the strap to that. When you're not using it, clip the strap to the bottom of the camera.


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Jan 04, 2017 11:05 |  #11

I'll be going to try out the PD Slide later today - imagine I'll be taking it home. I tend to switch from sling to neck strap regularly (depending on lens) and the ability to lengthen and shorten the strap easily, not to mention the ability to leave a mount on the 70-200...
Here's hoping it's long enough for me (I'm 6'2", 220).

Will report back with my findings.


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Jan 04, 2017 14:29 |  #12

Thanks for all of the advice! Have always found this forum to be extremely valuable.

Just picked up the Peak Design Slide.
Very impressed with the apparent quality and feel of the strap.
Is a lot softer than I thought it would be.
Sizing is just about right for my frame - but if I was any bigger, it would sit too high I think.

I ended up putting two of the toggles on the camera and put two toggles on the tripod mount and put that on my 70-200.
With the 70-200, it now sits upside down and lens facing backwards - also gives me a bit more length to the sling and is very comfortable.

While my 26 year old Tamrac strap has done me well, I think this was a very good upgrade!

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Jan 04, 2017 21:14 |  #13

Cool! Glad you like it.
With all the variations of attachment points, you can experiment with what is most comfortable and user friendly for you.
Enjoy!


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Jan 06, 2017 10:04 |  #14

Looks like a fine solution, glad you've found what works.

I use both a Black Rapid Double and Peak Design Slide. While I prefer the BR when carrying two bodies, in a crowded venue (concert photographer here) the cameras swing too wide, with the Peak strap they lay tight to my body. I also use Peak Design Capture Pro and the versatile arca-swiss plate works across my system, which is very convenient. At the moment my cameras have the Black Rapid attachment ring on them, which also has a Peak Design anchor link attached so that I can go back and forth with ease.

You really can't go wrong with either, both are great in different ways.




  
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Jan 07, 2017 21:57 |  #15

Had my first outing with the PD Slide and the 70-200 2.8 - the strap is very comfortable. Lens wasn't an issue at all to carry around - didn't notice the increased weight like I thought I would. I feel it more when it's in a camera bag.

Only issue is it's a bit more bulky than my last strap and sometimes a bit tricky to get back in the bag (Crumpler 7MDH). I had to remove pretty much all of the interior dividers to get the camera and 70-200 attached to fit - I made a small cubby where my 17-50 could be stashed - but that's it! With the 70-200 removed, fits nicely.


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