Flashpoint eVOLV 200 R2 TTL Pocket Flash | (AD200) Thoughts?

Intriguing that you can use a single AD360 bulb. I wonder if that will be as bright as the pair of AD200 bulbs?

Talley wrote in post #18391943
Where you been thats old news.

I've been reading about the firmware update in preparation for the upcoming Fuji X1 transmitter, but had not heard that this flash was already out.

Since a few days the AD600 is compatible with the rest of the triggers:

2017-06-24 - V1.7/V2.4 Compatible with Godox Olympus/Panasonic X system and Fuji X system

The AD200 longer but then it is not on sale over here.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18391950
I've been reading about the firmware update in preparation for the upcoming Fuji X1 transmitter, but had not heard that this flash was already out.

What I wanna know is why is mine still backordered??? I ordered mine back in april!!!

This is a small tiny low powered flash but will still be a great travel flash for the wife's X-T20 and the way fuji handles their ISO for flashing this will be a great bounce flash for some fill.

dmward wrote in post #18391614
More important to me is this:

I received a Godox TT350f yesterday. Did a quick test with GFX. It does TTL and HSS.

More importantly, it controls an AD200 as an Off Camera Light for TTL and HSS. I installed the latest version firmware in the AD200 when it was released last week in anticipation of the TT350.

All the control was from the TT350f. I have yet to explore how the camera flash control menu works.

So, until I can do more exhaustive testing, TTL and HSS from Godox X system works with GFX. (And also XT-2)

Where did you get your TT350f from? I ordered mine back in april and adorama still shows backordered.

"Better Beamer" for the 580EXII or 600 RT can be used with the AD200 with very good results.

When shooting the "beamer" equipped AD200 at the wall from about 5 feet away I got a rectangular light that was only about 1 foot wide, 8 inches high.

I haven't taken the rig outside yet, but my guess is that with the power of 3+ speedlights, that's going to be some serious throw!

Talley wrote in post #18391999
Where did you get your TT350f from? I ordered mine back in april and adorama still shows backordered.

The Godox version appears to be in stock on Amazon and some Ebay sellers (some are gouging)

bobbyz wrote in post #18391586
^^ For what you asking you will have to do it yourself. Simple test with 1 or 2 AD200s is doable. Right now I only got 1 AD200. Haven't done any testing yet. $300 a pop, they are dirt cheap compared to Profotos so pick couple and check them out.

dmward wrote in post #18391613
The WB consistency question is an interesting one, but since its only critical for situations where the flash is the only contributing light source its kind of a specialized situation.

I've thought of doing the testing, not only with the AD200, but also with the AD360 and AD600 in combination.

Its just one of those things that needs a time commitment I can't make at the moment.

Well I think that's indeed one thing I'll have to check myself. We'll see.


It also appears that the AD200 is compatible with MagMods - is there any difference in terms of overheating when using it ?

Also, if you have used the MagBeam with it, how even is the illuminated area ?

Talley wrote in post #18391999
Where did you get your TT350f from? I ordered mine back in april and adorama still shows backordered.

Talley,
I have a source in China that I found. They appear to have some kind of close relationship with the factory and seem to have immediate availability when new product is introduced.

I've used them several times to get product right after introduction for testing while I wait for Edward or Adorama to get production items.

On amazon, look for Letwing Digital. https://www.amazon.com …ords=letwing+go​dox+tt350f

Another aspect of the fast arrival was paying for DHL air.

dmward wrote in post #18392712
Talley,
I have a source in China that I found. They appear to have some kind of close relationship with the factory and seem to have immediate availability when new product is introduced.

I've used them several times to get product right after introduction for testing while I wait for Edward or Adorama to get production items.

On amazon, look for Letwing Digital. https://www.amazon.com …ords=letwing+go​dox+tt350f

Another aspect of the fast arrival was paying for DHL air.

It's my wifes camera. I'll just patiently wait. I prefer flashpoint for their warranty.

The Flashpoint EVOLV 200 TWIN HEAD / Godox AD-B2 are now available for pre-order for $59 -

http://flashhavoc.com …n-head-bracket-announced/


( Post and listing are staying up this time )

Wish there was an extension head for AD200 like there is for AD600. This two head solution is nice but it is lot more weight compared to extension head of AD600.

bobbyz wrote in post #18393307
Wish there was an extension head for AD200 like there is for AD600. This two head solution is nice but it is lot more weight compared to extension head of AD600.

uh... all in one no cords... I think this 200 fits the market just right. My thing is typically after about a year the flashpoint stuff will go on a flash sale. Right now the 360 TTL are 499 but remember they went on a 349.99 sale.

I suspect the AD200 from adorama will do the same and go on sale for 199.99 so will most likely wait till then to upgrade then. I'll buy 4 of them at that price then sell all 360's.

I'm being smart this time around lol

What this does mean is that rather than stocking a number of different strobes for different power applications, one could actually get away with only having AD200 in the inventory.

I may be wrong, but won't two of them outgun an AD360? Or is it a wash? (that brings me back to the question of two AD200 tubes vs. the single AD360 tubes? by the way)
Either way, AD360 would no longer look appealing to an AD200 with dual bracket user.

And if the AD600 is only 1/3-1/2 stop stronger than the dual, that starts to reduce the want/need for the AD600 as well.

I would imagine a kit of nothing but AD200 would be the most portable in existence in a W.S. per bulk rating.

Arguably one could also forgo smaller units, although the hotshoe mount and much lower cost of the V860 makes it still a very valuable option, one could use a bracket and use only the AD200 there as well. (this would be a harder sell though)

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18393361
What this does mean is that rather than stocking a number of different strobes for different power applications, one could actually get away with only having AD200 in the inventory.

I may be wrong, but won't two of them outgun an AD360? Or is it a wash? (that brings me back to the question of two AD200 tubes vs. the single AD360 tubes? by the way)
Either way, AD360 would no longer look appealing to an AD200 with dual bracket user.

And if the AD600 is only 1/3-1/2 stop stronger than the dual, that starts to reduce the want/need for the AD600 as well.

I would imagine a kit of nothing but AD200 would be the most portable in existence in a W.S. per bulk rating.

Arguably one could also forgo smaller units, although the hotshoe mount and much lower cost of the V860 makes it still a very valuable option, one could use a bracket and use only the AD200 there as well. (this would be a harder sell though)

A few things to consider

AD200 = 200ws
AD360 = 307ws
Dual AD200 = 400ws

Now... The weight savings

AD200 w/ batt and bulb = 930g
AD360 w/ bulb and cord = 960g (I'm including the cord because it'll count as head weight mostly

Now there is a size factor and without a doubt the AD200 wins since it's an all in one. This should be it's most attractive solution on size.

The AD360 requires the BP-960 battery pack and that alone weighs 530g. However one must remember you can use adapters and power up to 4 AD360 on one battery pack if need be (recycle times are bad like 8 seconds) but using one battery pack on 4 AD360 has to be pretty painful to it but it does work.

So you can use dual AD200's but then you can get a tri bracket and mount 3 AD 360's for even more power ~900w vs 400w.

To answer your question... yes dual AD200 would be about 1/2 stop more powerful than a single 360 but dual AD200 will no doubt be less than the AD600... mind you the AD600 weighs in at 2900g so it's still the heaviest solution.

The most attractive part about the AD200 is the fact you could have say 6 of them. Then you can have 3 dual setups for outside sunlight applications then you have 6 of them for inside non light intensive applications. The AD360 is still attractive since the battery pack can also power the TT685C speedlights providing 1800 pops on one battery pack.

The options are endless... the AD200 provides all in one with no cord mess and capability to combined to 400ws but then thats it. Using a tri bracket you can do three 360's and have 900ws and 2.4s recycle times using 3 battery packs all with 450 full power pops. For 900ws the AD360 provides the least amount of weight to deal with just more cords/battery.

I'd rather have the 200's but my 360's haven't done me wrong either so why change?