X-e2/14 2.8 Vs 6D/24 1.4 II

OK, this is better off being its own thread as a spin off of the picture share. By far the most tech stressful thing I do with cameras is shoot interiors with no tripod/flash. I know that is not best way for many reasons, but they are not realistically applicable to me most of time(however I have been enjoying bouncing my e2 popup flash on jobs NOT, but not this one for sanctity of test).

So here is a house I shot yesterday. I did not really take the same perspective shots, but rather just shot it twice with 2 different cameras so not much exact shot comparing, but more of a feel from the set and the conditions are the same. Even if this kind of photography is not your thing, I think it is a good stress test comparing a P and S sized Fuji against a Canon FF camera with a highly regarded L lens. I can tell you on more than a few shots I am -100 highlights and plus 100 shadows...These files have been worked hard. This is NOT meant to have a "winner". This is NOT the basis for needing/wanting one or the other, or meant to be anything more than how close essentially a what, $1500 Fuji system to a what, like $3500 Canon FF one. I am a total feel photographer, and the only time I get picky and critical is with interiors, but I don't even do it at more than large monitor view size as that is all I need for my portfolio. For me, thoughts have recently crossed my mind if I could switch totally to fuji as MANY have and ditch FF, and this is one need I have where FF should be an advantage. For anyone reading this, who won't be doing this much to files, I think the results will say a lot about how capable the FUJI system is. This is also not the best fuji sensor, but not best canon either, sorry guys, I don't buy gear often, and I buy used.

I didn't want to put these on my flickr, so it is on my photo bucket. I know this site destroys quality, but I assume you can view large at photo bucket? I have never posted technical pics because I truly never really care, so I hope the Files are OK.

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So I think the point is that if you are going to put a pic on a hosting site and share it on a forum, you may as well use an iPhone.

OK, seriously, here is what I did find on my retina mac in processing that this may not show. 6D images had more detail (look at the first bedroom photo, specifically the dresser, trunk, and floor) From the pushing, the 6D had a lot less noise, this is what I would say is probably bigger than the detail if had to be ranked. These 2 things jumped out at me immediately and I thought man the 6d really stood out as a lot cleaner and more pop, which is the case in processing. However, I am still new to working Fuji Files and I feel like I got them closer than my first go around. I also feel like the transfers and posting here hurt the 6D files more than the Xtrans? Is that possible in compressions etc? Like some shadows and highlights are not quite what I have in LR as where the fuji looks relatively less harmed? Maybe I am sick of staring at these and processing. So anyway, after all that and sleeping on it, even if you are making a fine art website (I am gearing up for this and thus really trying to get as many files as possible) with large pics and high quality, I think that fuji holds it's own. It really comes down to the details and noise. The last photo in the first all fuji post, with the backs of seats and edge of countertop, that was my focus point, and that countertop edge should show more detail in the stone. It doesn't per say from my degrading it plenty with other pushing and NR. Does it matter? Did any of you think that? Part of me also thinks what makes the xtrans great and film like hurts it if pushing processing? Like the noise it has inherently is nice, but not a place for it in pushing files for interior?

I am so thrilled I chose to get into the Fuji system. I am shooting more than ever and I will be shooting more jobs than ever because it is in my car all the time and I even snuck it on in my jacket with the 14 the other day. What I did to these files would have destroyed 60D images, I can't comment on anything newer. Print would let me get away with what I did on 6D, not so much the E2, again, noise and detail. If I did not have the potential to have certain jobs I would want the OPTION of the best images I can get to capture them, or have such an emotional attachment to the 3 lenses I own for my 6D (24/50 art/135) and truly believe that they render things in a way that makes them each special enough (interiors with the 24 is like getting groceries in a ferrari, it is way more amazing creatively used). I think it would be COMPELLING to do as others and go all Fuji. As things are today, future fuji sensors aside, any money I put into photography going forward will be at the X system. I went months without shooting before I got the fuji (this started with me wanting the Jena or Jupiter 85 for canon) and photography has NEVER been so effortless and enjoyable. The same thing you hear from many fuji guys, and it is for a reason. I am not sure if this helps anyone with anything, but it is a real life canon FF vs Fuji 16mp Xtrans comparison thread that may help someone somehow.

An interesting read I found looking for differences in the 16-24 xtrans sensors. About as informal a comparison as mine, but xpro2 and 16 1.4 vs 5d3 and 24 1.4.

https://ivanjoshualoh.​com …1/30/x-pro2-takes-on-5d3/

So it looks like the new 24mp sensor is a legit upgrade on something already really good.

I know for the usual posters here, all this means nothing they don't know, but this thread is really for people stopping by out of curiosity, to show that there certainly is a lot of fire underneath all the Fuji smoke.

My only question would be, is the apsc Sony mirrorless system this good? Is anyone else's? Is this really the xtrans sensor in combo with superb glass?

I am of course speaking biasedly from my new experience, but I think the reality is that the Fuji system (All mirrorless?) makes your dslr gear, if you keep it, the companion system for those few tasks it is technically better for, or better said, the few shoots you want to bother for that difference. I am sorta surprised that mirrorless is not all the rage with my experience the last 30 days.

The fuji sensor in addition to great glass is what makes the fuji files impressive. The draw to cheaper f/2 prime glass is also appealing to the regular joe that wants relatively fast glass in a very small light package. Lots of glass selection in fuji glass!!!

Fuji ISO is misrepresenting real numbers. Time and time again many people find fuji files to be under exposed vs other camera's with the same iso/aperture/shutter speed. Regardless the image quality and pleasant noise makes the fuji a fantastic system.

I've mentioned this before but I still find in some cases that a full frame makes a difference. After taking a very large adult group shot outdoors with an X-T10 and 16mm f/1.4 I know as a fact that my 5d2/3 with 24Lmk2 would have provided cleaner photos.

Fuji's rendition has a "softer" approach vs insane sharp contrasty images a full frame Sony. The group shot I took was still fantastic but less detail compared to my full frame gear. Mind you my X-t10 is only 16mp too.

Nick you can actually have taken the X-E2 photos at f/4 getting approximately same dof compared to your 6d @ f/5.6.

You know what Alan, I am so used to 5.6 being the 24 sweet spot, that I almost default to that as my go to hand held aperture comprise for inside that I didn't even think about the sensor size and same dof with the 14, and the 14 is sharp as crap, I bet it is probably as sharp at 4 as 5.6. I am definitely remembering that for next shoot. That is freaking gold advice as I would have not thought about it and that stop can buy me a stop if ISO, which as you said Fuji manipulates lower anyway( I read an article on this, and one of my problems is my eye prefers like 1/3-1/2 stop lower exposed photos, but that doesn't translate well to others)

Thanks a lot! That is a huge tip!