Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Computers 
Thread started 26 Feb 2017 (Sunday) 06:41
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Ryzen 1800x vs i5 2500k on Lightroom?

 
the.forumer
Senior Member
415 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2011
     
Feb 26, 2017 06:41 |  #1

LR is lagging quite badly on my 2500k with the a7r2 images even with smart previews and 1:1 previews.

was wondering, will upgrading to the new Ryzen or 6900k boost performance significantly?

is LR effectively multi-core accelerated? Their single core performance is not so far apart, even though the price is.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
-dave-m-
Senior Member
493 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 49
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Post edited over 6 years ago by -dave-m-.
     
Feb 26, 2017 10:32 |  #2

the.forumer wrote in post #18285367 (external link)
LR is lagging quite badly on my 2500k with the a7r2 images even with smart previews and 1:1 previews.

was wondering, will upgrading to the new Ryzen or 6900k boost performance significantly?

is LR effectively multi-core accelerated? Their single core performance is not so far apart, even though the price is.

Lr depends more on single core performance than multi-core and will see very little performance gain beyond 4 cores for the tasks which use multi-cores(Exporting images to Disk in the one area where high core count really boosts performance). A higher clocked 4 core CPU will give more performance overall than an 8 core lower clocked CPU.

Have a look at some testing/benchmarks https://www.pugetsyste​ms.com …lti-Core-Performance-649/ (external link)

I'm waiting on real benchmarks from reviewers before deciding on Ryzen.


5D MkII Gripped | 7D MkII Gripped | 200 f/2.8L | 17-40 f/4L | Σ 24-105 OS f/4 Art | Σ 50 f/1.4 Art | Σ 150-600 OS f/5-6.3 C | 430EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Scoobert
Goldmember
1,202 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 319
Joined Feb 2013
Location: Iowa
     
Feb 26, 2017 11:47 |  #3

I am going to say which ever is clocked is going to be the better chip for LR. Since from what I have seen both will have close to the same IPC. It's not the fault of Intel or AMD, it's how horrible adobe is at coding and optimizing for more cores.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tim
Light Bringer
Avatar
51,010 posts
Likes: 375
Joined Nov 2004
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
     
Feb 26, 2017 13:33 |  #4

Clock speed is largely irrelevant, but single core speed is most important for interactive Lightroom use. Take whatever processor gives you the best single core performance and provides at least 2 cores, ideally 4.

Batching out images scales reasonably well on cores. Multicore programming is very difficult, though Lightroom is lagging behind where it should be.


Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
Read all my FAQs (wedding, printing, lighting, books, etc)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
-dave-m-
Senior Member
493 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 49
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
     
Feb 26, 2017 16:11 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #5

Amongst same generation CPU's the best single core performance will be the one with the highest clock speed. Currently the i7-7700k and i3-7350k sit at the top of PassMark CPU Benchmark for single threaded performance. The i7-4790K is actually faster in single thread performance than the i7-6700k because it has a higher turbo boost clock speed. Amongst Intel CPU's the newest generation will have the highest performance per core in synthetic benchmarks.

In real world performance newer generation CPU's may not show alot of gain over previous generations if the software you are using is not optimized for the Instruction Set built into the CPU and there wasn't a change in the manufacturing process(ie. going from 22nm to 14nm).


5D MkII Gripped | 7D MkII Gripped | 200 f/2.8L | 17-40 f/4L | Σ 24-105 OS f/4 Art | Σ 50 f/1.4 Art | Σ 150-600 OS f/5-6.3 C | 430EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FuturamaJSP
Goldmember
Avatar
2,227 posts
Likes: 82
Joined Oct 2009
Post edited over 6 years ago by FuturamaJSP.
     
Feb 27, 2017 01:05 |  #6

according to AMD the new Ryzen 1800x is faster than the i7 6900k which is a 1100 dollar cpu...
your outdated Sandybridge i5 is like 5 years old by now and IF the new Ryzen can't even beat that I Think AMD should start making burgers and coffee instead


They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard! - Fallout New Vegas
blah blah blah
DA (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Headshotzx
Goldmember
Avatar
4,488 posts
Likes: 141
Joined Dec 2007
Location: Singapore
     
Mar 02, 2017 12:48 |  #7

It would seem like gaming and single core performance is not up to par with Intel i7-7700k which is cheaper - based off of the latest reviews.

Ah well. To #teamblue now.


Zexun | Flickr (external link) | YouTube (external link) |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mzondeki
Senior Member
936 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 439
Joined Oct 2008
Location: Mountain House, CA
     
Mar 02, 2017 18:25 |  #8

Actions where you can process multiple images in batch can be sped up using multicore. However, I believe single image editing is still done one-image-per-core basis. Even if you have 1000 cores, its hard and unreliable to exploit multiple cores to perform actions on ONE image.
So your editing process won't be faster. Import and Export will be.


RX100V, A7 + Contax Zeiss [28/2.8, 50/1.4, 100/2, 135/2.8]
https://www.flickr.com​/photos/53182994@N06/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
-dave-m-
Senior Member
493 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 49
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
     
Mar 02, 2017 18:53 |  #9

mzondeki wrote in post #18290149 (external link)
Actions where you can process multiple images in batch can be sped up using multicore. However, I believe single image editing is still done one-image-per-core basis. Even if you have 1000 cores, its hard and unreliable to exploit multiple cores to perform actions on ONE image.
So your editing process won't be faster. Import and Export will be.

The problem is, most of those tasks that can use multiple cores do not scale very well beyond 4 cores, only exporting really utilizes multiple cores efficiently and it pretty much flat lines at 6 cores. Intel still has the performance advantage when it comes to Lightroom and Photoshop.


5D MkII Gripped | 7D MkII Gripped | 200 f/2.8L | 17-40 f/4L | Σ 24-105 OS f/4 Art | Σ 50 f/1.4 Art | Σ 150-600 OS f/5-6.3 C | 430EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EverydayGetaway
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
11,007 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 5395
Joined Oct 2012
Location: GA Mountains
     
Mar 02, 2017 22:04 |  #10

Headshotzx wrote in post #18289889 (external link)
It would seem like gaming and single core performance is not up to par with Intel i7-7700k which is cheaper - based off of the latest reviews.

Ah well. To #teamblue now.

Or you could just wait for the next batch of 6 and 4 core processors from AMD which are slated for Q2... those are the ones that are meant to take on the i7's and i5's and are likely to hit that traditional low AMD price point.

As for the OP; If you haven't upgraded to an SSD yet for your OS and LR than I would start with that. I saw a much bigger difference when I switched to an SSD than I did when I switched from my 1090T to my i7 3820.


Fuji X-T3 // Fuji X-Pro2 (Full Spectrum) // Fuji X-H1 // Fuji X-T1
flickr (external link) // Instagram (external link)www.LucasGPhoto.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FuturamaJSP
Goldmember
Avatar
2,227 posts
Likes: 82
Joined Oct 2009
     
Mar 03, 2017 01:32 |  #11

Headshotzx wrote in post #18289889 (external link)
It would seem like gaming and single core performance is not up to par with Intel i7-7700k which is cheaper - based off of the latest reviews.

Ah well. To #teamblue now.


For gaming the 1100 dollar i7 6900K is slower than Skylake i7 6700K...
these 8 core cpus are not meant for gaming and I usually laugh at ppl for getting cpus with 6 or more weaker cores at considerably higher price than 4 core i5s and i7s


They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard! - Fallout New Vegas
blah blah blah
DA (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Headshotzx
Goldmember
Avatar
4,488 posts
Likes: 141
Joined Dec 2007
Location: Singapore
     
Mar 03, 2017 09:23 as a reply to  @ FuturamaJSP's post |  #12

Indeed - my point exactly. Unless photography takes second fiddle to 3D and video content creation work - the 7700k might be the best bet from the blue camp now.


Zexun | Flickr (external link) | YouTube (external link) |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EverydayGetaway
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
11,007 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 5395
Joined Oct 2012
Location: GA Mountains
     
Mar 03, 2017 09:29 |  #13

Headshotzx wrote in post #18290605 (external link)
Indeed - my point exactly. Unless photography takes second fiddle to 3D and video content creation work - the 7700k might be the best bet from the blue camp now.

Yeah, but like I said, when the lower tier Ryzen stuff launches in a few months it'll shake up that market.

The stuff they just launched wasn't intended to compete with the 7700k, it was meant to take on the 6900k, which is also worse for gaming than the 7700k.


Fuji X-T3 // Fuji X-Pro2 (Full Spectrum) // Fuji X-H1 // Fuji X-T1
flickr (external link) // Instagram (external link)www.LucasGPhoto.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Edshropshire
Senior Member
Avatar
453 posts
Gallery: 48 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 522
Joined Jul 2008
Location: Provo, UT
     
Mar 03, 2017 17:49 |  #14

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18286351 (external link)
according to AMD the new Ryzen 1800x is faster than the i7 6900k which is a 1100 dollar cpu...
your outdated Sandybridge i5 is like 5 years old by now and IF the new Ryzen can't even beat that I Think AMD should start making burgers and coffee instead

True, they do say that, but we are not starting to see some independent benchmarks. The new AMD chips are performing well, but I have yet to see one that in real world benchmarks is quite up to what they say. Not saying there bad, the chips look good. Great to finally see AMD give Intel some competition - been a long time. Also, looks like Intel is taking notice and prices seem to be dropping.


R5, 5D MK2, RF 100-500, RF 800 f11, RF 24-105 f4, RF 1.4c TC, RF 100-400, EF 70-200 f2.8 II,EF 24-70 L, 70-200 f4 L, 85 1.8, 50 1.8,
https://theshire.zenfo​lio.com/ (external link)
https://www.flickr.com​/photos/shropshirefami​ly/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
the.forumer
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
415 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2011
     
Mar 13, 2017 03:59 as a reply to  @ Edshropshire's post |  #15

i read through some benchmarks and noticed that a 7700k is only 29% faster than a 2500k in single-core performance.

In addition, my 2500k can OC up to 4.8ghz with my custom cooler. Does it not make sense to upgrade based on LR alone then?

the image-to-image loading and editing in Develop (even with Smart Previews) is killing me. :(




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

8,731 views & 0 likes for this thread, 9 members have posted to it and it is followed by 5 members.
Ryzen 1800x vs i5 2500k on Lightroom?
FORUMS General Gear Talk Computers 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Marcsaa
1334 guests, 118 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.