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Mar 30, 2017 11:13 |  #16

SD cards and the 5DIII just have hiccups sometimes.. then it goes away and no issues till the next sun flare.

5DIII only writes at one speed to the SD card, so once you get a card above that speed, it won't go any faster, Plus it slows the write speed down to the CF card just because an SD card is present.

Maybe there is a way to re-create when this happens, but I think I've had it one time, and off and on I've see posts about this thru the years,
and common thread is 1. it is a 5D3, and 2. writing to an SD card.


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Mar 30, 2017 13:08 as a reply to  @ post 18314601 |  #17

joseph - thanks again for the ideas and info.

I took a close look at the two problem files and the good files that preceded and followed them. Here is what I found:
Image One: a-ok
Image Two: a composite of image one and what I was actually shooting
Image Three: a composite of image four and what I was actually shooting
Image Four: a-ok

Thanks for sharing the link to the thread on dpreview. That was very useful. Some of the problem images in that thread match the issue I had...split/composite images overcast with a weird purple haze. At least one person mentioned having the problem on occasion while using a flash (as I was).

The good news is that I requested a replacement card from SanDisk, and they promptly agreed. They will replace the card at no cost to me (yea SanDisk). So if the problem shows up again, I will have to consider that it is a camera issue (yikes $$$).

And thanks for the firmware reminder. I was one update behind, so I got that done today.




  
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Mar 30, 2017 13:10 as a reply to  @ post 18314640 |  #18

Hi LHB -
Yes, I regularly format my cards in camera (not the low-level option, just the standard format option). Sometimes I use cards in both my 5D3 and my 7D2, but I try to remember to format before switching between bodies. Sometimes I wonder if I should just dedicate specific cards to specific bodies. I always keep my fastest CF cards on hand exclusively for the 7D2 for birding and wildlife action shooting.




  
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Mar 30, 2017 19:57 |  #19

You seemed like you knew to do that, but I thought I would mention it.

I do my best to keep cards for specific bodies. Just yesterday I grabbed an old, slow SD card out of a work Nikon 300, I think, and it worked fine in a rented 5DSR for the few test shots I took with it. I even took it to the computer and downloaded the images before reformatting it for the real shoot.

On the other hand, my SL1 doesn't seem to like cards from my 6D. I don't get corrupted files but it will occasionally refuse to write to it


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Mar 31, 2017 02:38 |  #20

ksbal wrote in post #18314900 (external link)
..., Plus it slows the write speed down to the CF card just because an SD card is present.

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This is not true. As long as you don't write to the SD, while writing to CF (as if you duplicate your image in both card), the CF wont slow down.

As to OP, I don't think the strobe can cause the issue. Like other has mentioned, Extreme Plus has life time warranty, I suggest getting it replaced just in case.


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Mar 31, 2017 08:26 |  #21

eelnoraa wrote in post #18315506 (external link)
This is not true. As long as you don't write to the SD, while writing to CF (as if you duplicate your image in both card), the CF wont slow down.

As to OP, I don't think the strobe can cause the issue. Like other has mentioned, Extreme Plus has life time warranty, I suggest getting it replaced just in case.


Actually, it is true.. you don't even want an sd card in the slot:

Per This Article (external link)

"At this point, you might be thinking, “why would the SD card slow down all of the data transfer of the camera including the CF card?” It turns out that the camera will default to the slowest card inserted. So, if you have a 1000x CF card in slot one and any SD card in the second slot, the very best buffer clear that will achieve is 133x. When shooting sports or any type of images with burst mode (6 frames per second), this is crippling. I want to shoot a bunch of images, have the camera clear the buffer as quickly as possible, and then keeping shooting more. Why would I want to clear data at 20MB per second when I could be transferring at 90MB per second or better? For this reason, I almost never use the SD slot in the camera. I want to take full advantage of my Lexar 1000x Professional CompactFlash card."


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Mar 31, 2017 10:53 as a reply to  @ ksbal's post |  #22

The above post by ksbal regarding the SD card just being in the slot is true. The interface on the SD Card for the EOS 5D MK III was an ancient design. If you want speed,do not put the SD card in....I love my 5D MK III, but I never put the SD card in.

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Apr 02, 2017 07:50 |  #23

There is a slight confusion amongst 5D3 users concerning write speed when both card slots are used.
It is true that in case you set the Camera to store on both Cards (Either both the same format, or RAW on one and JPG on the other), the total write speed will be significantly slower. But that's the Nature of the Beast that the out-of-time SD slot consists of.
(All thoughts and thought experiments here now under the assumption that both cards as as fast or faster than the maximum write speed the camera can perform!).
Let's assume we store raw on both cards. After the raw is recorded and pushed to the camera buffer, both slots now write to the respective cards. CF is faster, so finishes first. Now, there would be two possibilities for file handling: Either the CF system now stops writing until the "ok" from the SD operation is received, then the process starts again with the next picture which is already waiting in the buffer; or the CF already writes the next file from the buffer while the SD still works on the previous one. In both cases, the total write process is not finished until all shots in the buffer are stored on both cards and the buffer can be cleared.

But in case the SD has a card, but the Camera is set to write only one copy on the CF card, nothing like this happens, and the bust is stored as fast as if no SD card is present. You can try it at home, you wont see any difference unless you write on both cards parallel.

I use the SD slot as "Overflow" to prevent the Camera from stopping when my CF is full, and never see a slow down on bursts. At very important shootings I record toboth cards parallel, but then I have to live with slower burst speed, which often is not a problem.




  
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