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Mar 30, 2017 22:58 |  #1

Hello, can anyone recommend me a nice affordable flash for a Canon AV-1 film camera, hopefully something i can grab on eBay?




  
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Mar 30, 2017 23:14 |  #2

This is the best I could come up with
http://www.petervis.co​m …v-1/canon-av-1-flash.html (external link)

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Mar 31, 2017 00:16 |  #3

If you use one of the listed Canon flashes (see previous link), you can set your camera on 'A' and whenever the Canon flash is recycled and ready to fire, your AV-1 will automatically shift to a flash-compatible shutter speed, and then back to an ambient light-only shutter speed while the flash is recycling. That small little contact on the hotshoe is a dedicated flash connector for that purpose.

If you do not buy a flash made by Canon, there is the possibility of a Metz flash with an appropriate control module compatible with the AV-1 which make it perform just like a Canon flash made for the AV-1. The Metz SCA-310 module is the control module used to tailor the Metz flash (SCA 300 compatible units) to Canon AV-1. This control module can still be found on eBay, as can flash units like the Metz 36CT.

The alternative is to use general Auto mode capable (photosensor on the flash itself, for setting auto exposure with indicated film speed and the aperture indicated on the dial of the flash) flash unit, and for flash units which do not have the AV-1 dedicated flash connector, manually set shutter speed at 1/60 rather than using the 'A' position on the mode dial. Unfortunately it is getting very difficult to find a generic Auto mode photosensor flash, as most flash units offered by B&H and others are 'dedicated' for the current digital SLRs and are not necessarily compatible with legacy cameras like the AV-1. Examples currently available on eBay include the Sunpak 522 or Sunpak 433.


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Mar 31, 2017 10:31 |  #4

Wilt wrote in post #18315443 (external link)
If you use one of the listed Canon flashes (see previous link), you can set your camera on 'A' and whenever the Canon flash is recycled and ready to fire, your AV-1 will automatically shift to a flash-compatible shutter speed, and then back to an ambient light-only shutter speed while the flash is recycling. That small little contact on the hotshoe is a dedicated flash connector for that purpose.

If you do not buy a flash made by Canon, there is the possibility of a Metz flash with an appropriate control module compatible with the AV-1 which make it perform just like a Canon flash made for the AV-1. The Metz SCA-310 module is the control module used to tailor the Metz flash (SCA 300 compatible units) to Canon AV-1. This control module can still be found on eBay, as can flash units like the Metz 36CT.

The alternative is to use general Auto mode capable (photosensor on the flash itself, for setting auto exposure with indicated film speed and the aperture indicated on the dial of the flash) flash unit, and for flash units which do not have the AV-1 dedicated flash connector, manually set shutter speed at 1/60 rather than using the 'A' position on the mode dial. Unfortunately it is getting very difficult to find a generic Auto mode photosensor flash, as most flash units offered by B&H and others are 'dedicated' for the current digital SLRs and are not necessarily compatible with legacy cameras like the AV-1. Examples currently available on eBay include the Sunpak 522 or Sunpak 433.

Interesting, so you think grabbing one from that list would be the easiest way to go as it's going to automagically expose my images correctly?




  
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johnsonjpj wrote in post #18315734 (external link)
Interesting, so you think grabbing one from that list would be the easiest way to go as it's going to automagically expose my images correctly?

I would not call a flash from that list 'the easiest way'...


  1. it certainly is 'less complicated' for someone who does not know anything.
  2. I own a Metz flash so for me the 'easiest and least expensive' is to buy a Metz SCA 310 module!
  3. If you are a veteran flash user and do not mind setting the shutter to 1/60 rather than having the camera shift the speed, a Sunpak 522 or 422 is certainly quite simple.

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Mar 31, 2017 15:39 |  #6

Wilt wrote in post #18315883 (external link)
I would not call a flash from that list 'the easiest way'...


  1. it certainly is 'less complicated' for someone who does not know anything.
  2. I own a Metz flash so for me the 'easiest and least expensive' is to buy a Metz SCA 310 module!
  3. If you are a veteran flash user and do not mind setting the shutter to 1/60 rather than having the camera shift the speed, a Sunpak 522 or 422 is certainly quite simple.

With the AV-1, I dont think I can manually set the shutter speed. Aperture priority is all there is. I've never shot using a flash before so I think i'll try picking up a Canon Speedlite 199A and see how that goes!




  
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