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Apr 03, 2017 08:20 |  #1

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It has been so long time, and i feel it is like i am starting over my photography experience.

I have this Wacom tablet old models for years but didn't use them, i was busy and i wasn't much interested in them to learn, but now i feel i can give them a try and learn, but because it has been so long time now i saw that Wacom brought so many models recently these years, so i was thinking if i should sell my both Wacom tablets as long they are not used so much so like new and get good money to buy new one, i know i won't sell them both for same price of one new, but i will try to have nearly 60-80% of the new, the rest i can arrange within the time.

So, let's say if i will sell both, the hard question will be then, which new model of Wacom i should get?

My both tablets are Intuos, so i will stay with this line, but one is large and one is small, large is a headache, and small is more comfortable than larhe but it is maybe not the best size as well, i was thinking maybe medium is the one i should look for, or you think small is still the best size in Intuos line?

What is your recommendation?


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Apr 03, 2017 08:57 |  #2

You don't say which models you currently have, but personally I only buy a new tablet when the old one is broken. I had a Wacom Inuos 2 for a long time and changed that for an Intuos 4, which I am still using. The added features are of little interest to me for photography use, but perhaps others will feel differently. My current Wacom is a PTK-640, which seems to work well for me in terms of size.


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Apr 03, 2017 09:07 |  #3

My current Wacom are: Intuos 3 large and Intuos 4 small.

Could be right what you said, but it is not a big deal if i can sell them both and get new one with slightly little more i add, it will be like i did buy that new one from beginning, and why not if both are still in excellent conditions and i can sell them both for good price and then buy new one regardless how important those new/additional features or if worthy, at the end if i can't sell them both or can't get good money out of both then simply i will keep them and start to use them.


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Apr 03, 2017 09:54 |  #4

I say use what you have and learn to get used to it. After that if you find you like it then decide if the new features would benefit you.


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Apr 03, 2017 11:08 |  #5

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I say use what you have and learn to get used to it. After that if you find you like it then decide if the new features would benefit you.

If i do that i will even lose the condition price completely, and then i my not able to afford anything else even if i need those features later, so it is like it is my only chance or opportunity to get rid of old and get new regardless how handy is those new features, but i don't know if you understand my point to sell something now as long they are in excellent like new condition than waiting until they are almost good condition and used a lot then sell it, i don't think i can sell anything even if they are in excellent condition

The point is, if i can sell it then i always get great value selling it at excellent condition, and why can't i learn with the new one, what will be the difficulty if i get the new one to learn with? Or it is like getting new even with new features is just pointless and i should forget about the new ones forever or until i can have big budget.


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Apr 03, 2017 11:10 as a reply to  @ DagoImaging's post |  #6

For me the middle size has the Goldilocks factor--just right. Been using one for years doing architectural illustration, painting and photo optimization on a 30" monitor.
I upgraded to a newer Intuos version not because my old one was broken, but because the newer one was more sensitive, as I was often utilizing a one-pixel brush.


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Apr 03, 2017 11:23 |  #7

Tareq wrote in post #18318314 (external link)
Or it is like getting new even with new features is just pointless and i should forget about the new ones forever or until i can have big budget.

Everyone has their own workflow, and I'm sure there are many who make full use of the "features" on the newer models, but fwiw, I've only used it as a basic painting and selection tool, disabling the buttons for the most part. My method is one hand on the tablet, the other over the keyboard, making use of the keyboard shortcuts for the program I'm using.
Point being- I wouldn't be too concerned about learning the "features". It's not like learning Final Cut or Motion... ;-)a


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Apr 03, 2017 12:55 |  #8

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My method is one hand on the tablet, the other over the keyboard, making use of the keyboard shortcuts for the program I'm using.

I operate the same way 99% of the time - mostly keyboard shortcuts with an occasional key on the tablet.

I'm using the Intuos Pro medium size. It takes up a fair amount of desktop space. For what I do, I could have gotten by with a small.

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Apr 03, 2017 16:31 |  #9

Last posts didn't give me much clue, so it is like my own decision, to keep the oldies or just sacrifice them and get the new one and never look back, but i have to decide almost quick because it has been so long time ago with mine and value already dropped but i may get something got, anymore waiting then it may be worthless to sell them both, it will be late, but if you can sell them both to get somewhere say %70-80 of the new one price, would you do it or just pass it and stay with oldies?!!!


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Apr 03, 2017 17:05 |  #10

I would stay with the ones you already have, the functionality will be perfectly fine. Setting all the buttons up gets to be a bit of a PITA, so in all probability you will only set up a few of them anyway. When it comes to size I would say that an 8" wide or so active area is about as large as you probably want to go. I used a 6" wide tablet for years, and that was just about perfect. I now have an 8" one and sometimes find it is a little on the large side. Mine have not been Wacom devices, but instead made by a company called Trust.

They work fine for all the work I do in PS, where I am usually working by brushing on the image. When working in LR I tend to use the mouse scroll wheel when moving sliders, and only switch to the pen tablet when using the local brushes.

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Apr 03, 2017 17:29 |  #11

So the size of 8" is good enough to stuck with, i don't know what is the size of the small tablet i have, but the large is really too large for me so it will be like useless or out of use anyway, so it will be like i will sell it no mater what, and because of that i was thinking why not sell that small one too with it then getting the new one as long i can afford it with the selling money and add just little, so in this case i will have only one tablet for use and it is the latest regardless i will use the features or not, i have two now which will be one anyway if i sell the large one, then the small Intuos 4 will be in use but maybe i will always feel that i want to upgrade it just to be upgraded in all cases, when i asked to sell them and get one new it was because i can afford the new one if i sell, it is not damn so huge much different in price, and i said that maybe the medium size is the perfect one to learn with, i don't have medium.


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Medium is the best size for photography purposes. Even digital painting.

Large tablets are meant for digital artists (i.e. painters, draftsmen and illustrators) who are trained to draw from the elbow or shoulder.

Check this out: https://design.tutsplu​s.com …-pros-and-cons--cms-24173 (external link)

As for durability, well, I'm still using my Intuos 4 medium size that I purchased in AD 2010. I haven't had any real need to upgrade to the latest models.


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Alveric wrote in post #18318681 (external link)
Medium is the best size for photography purposes. Even digital painting.

Large tablets are meant for digital artists (i.e. painters, draftsmen and illustrators) who are trained to draw from the elbow or shoulder.

Check this out: https://design.tutsplu​s.com …-pros-and-cons--cms-24173 (external link)

As for durability, well, I'm still using my Intuos 4 medium size that I purchased in AD 2010. I haven't had any real need to upgrade to the latest models.

Thank you very much for that link, it is really interesting to read about the way of drawing/writing or using the pen, but i don't have that medium size tablet anyway, so even if i want to have that size it means i have to do replacement.


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Indeed. If you go the replacement route, you can make now the right choice. ;)

If you decide to stick with what you have, you'll have to make adjustments to your workflow, by the looks of it. Personally, for photo retouching, I find a smaller surface and a drawing from the wrist approach more suitable, since it's mostly detail we're dealing with, and not broad, expansive brushstrokes.


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Apr 03, 2017 18:52 |  #15

Right, will see what i will end up as my decision, thanks again for the link


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