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Apr 06, 2017 16:06 |  #1

I do a fair amount of event photography, and display images onsite for customers. We use laptops with external monitors. 90% or more of our shots are portrait orientation. Would really like to show the images with the external monitor rotated 90 degrees to maximize viewing screen, but obviously have the laptop still in normal orientation. Anyone ever been able to accomplish this? Remember this is with "cloned" displays. I can "extend the desktop" and get it to work, but that won't serve my purpose. Any ideas??




  
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Apr 06, 2017 19:01 |  #2

I used to do something similar prior to retiring. I had one screen portrait for MS Word and my laptop had a company specific application in landscape. I would copy graphics from the landscape and paste into Word. Unfortunately I can't test this for you as I only work from the laptop. However I think it was done by making the desired screen active, thennusing CTRL+ALT+Left Arrow or CTRL+ALT+Right Arrow. Those are the keyboard shortcuts for rotation by 90 degrees.

I would also check Control Panel, Monitor, Display settings then Advanced settings and see if anything is of help.




  
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Apr 06, 2017 19:01 |  #3

A laptop? Why not just turn it on it's side?
Or attach a 2nd monitor & turn it on it's side?
Or get the kind that allows separating the screen from the base and...


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Apr 06, 2017 20:03 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #4

Yes a laptop. Turn it on it's side?? Seriously? Kinda hard to use the keyboard that way, lol. I think the point has been missed....
I use laptops, 3 to be precise, for my reps to work on. All 3 have external monitors connected so the customer can view their images that my reps are showing. We have done fine for 20 years with the current configuration, but with everything else, there comes a time when just maybe something else would be better. Looking at the external monitors recently, I had forgotten how much of the screen is really "unused" when showing an image with a portrait orientation, thus the reason why I think rotating the external display 90 degrees would make for a more appealing "show". The displays are "CLONED", not "EXTENDED".




  
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Apr 06, 2017 20:29 |  #5

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I had forgotten how much of the screen is really "unused" when showing an image with a portrait orientation, thus the reason why I think rotating the external display 90 degrees would make for a more appealing "show". The displays are "CLONED", not "EXTENDED".

Well you confused me (I think). It sounds like you want to physically rotate the external monitor. would something like https://www.amazon.com …E-MT0Q11-S1/dp/B004UBUHNU (external link) do the job?




  
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Apr 06, 2017 21:06 as a reply to  @ John from PA's post |  #6

^^^^ Yep, and you're still confused, lol. But thanks for trying to understand. Gonna get some sleep, and maybe show an illustration tomorrow to help get the point across. May even shoot a lil video.




  
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Apr 07, 2017 13:03 |  #7

I don't believe you can do it with cloned displays. The whole point of cloned displays is that they're...wait for it...exactly the same. It'll drop the resolution of the higher resolution screen to match the lower one so that they're exactly the same. Why can't you use extended desktop?




  
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Apr 07, 2017 13:10 |  #8

mike_d wrote in post #18322050 (external link)
I don't believe you can do it with cloned displays. The whole point of cloned displays is that they're...wait for it...exactly the same. It'll drop the resolution of the higher resolution screen to match the lower one so that they're exactly the same. Why can't you use extended desktop?


Glad you cleared up "cloned" for me. lol. Can't "extend" desktop, because the rep and customer need to see the same thing, and they're on opposite sides of the counter. With the vast majority of our work in "portrait" orientation, I figured if I could get that external display rotated, it would offer just a lil better viewing area. Just "thought" (God forbid, outside the friggin' box) I'd ask if anyone had ever accomplished the feat.




  
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Apr 07, 2017 13:15 |  #9

rowdy wrote in post #18322062 (external link)
Glad you cleared up "cloned" for me. lol. Can't "extend" desktop, because the rep and customer need to see the same thing, and they're on opposite sides of the counter. With the vast majority of our work in "portrait" orientation, I figured if I could get that external display rotated, it would offer just a lil better viewing area. Just "thought" (God forbid, outside the friggin' box) I'd ask if anyone had ever accomplished the feat.

What type of output are you using on the laptop? If you wanted to use a 3rd monitor, you could probably split it and have one portrait monitor on each side of the counter.




  
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Apr 07, 2017 13:29 |  #10

PhotosGuy wrote in post #18321524 (external link)
A laptop? Why not just turn it on it's side?
Or attach a 2nd monitor & turn it on it's side?
Or get the kind that allows separating the screen from the base and...

This will work. You could sit in your chair with your back on the seat and hang your legs over the back. Problem solved.


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Apr 07, 2017 15:03 |  #11

I'm told by my IT people that this will work at $40 single license...http://realtimesoft.co​m/ultramon/ (external link). In the mirroring section of features it says:

UltraMon offers a very flexible software mirroring solution:

mirror to one or more monitors
mirror only a single application, part of the desktop, or the area around the mouse pointer
zoom the mirror image or flip it horizontally and/or vertically
the source monitor can run at a higher resolution than the mirror monitor
pause mirroring (freezes the current image on the mirror monitor)
use hotkeys to start/stop/pause mirroring
source and mirror monitors can be driven by different video cards

and maybe this but it is a hardware solution and thus costs more money...http://www.pcadvisor.c​o.uk …-one-displayport-3512136/ (external link).




  
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Apr 08, 2017 07:23 |  #12

ShotByTom wrote in post #18322084 (external link)
This will work. You could sit in your chair with your back on the seat and hang your legs over the back. Problem solved.

:lol::lol::lol: Sounds reasonable to me!




  
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John from PA wrote in post #18322153 (external link)
I'm told by my IT people that this will work at $40 single license...http://realtimesoft.co​m/ultramon/ (external link). In the mirroring section of features it says:

UltraMon offers a very flexible software mirroring solution:

mirror to one or more monitors
mirror only a single application, part of the desktop, or the area around the mouse pointer
zoom the mirror image or flip it horizontally and/or vertically
the source monitor can run at a higher resolution than the mirror monitor
pause mirroring (freezes the current image on the mirror monitor)
use hotkeys to start/stop/pause mirroring
source and mirror monitors can be driven by different video cards

and maybe this but it is a hardware solution and thus costs more money...http://www.pcadvisor.c​o.uk …-one-displayport-3512136/ (external link).

Thanks for the links, I'll check into the Ultramon deal. It's not an issue of "hooking up" multiple monitors, just getting them to behave the way we would like. It's not a do or die deal, just an idea I had that could make our process a tad better, IMO. Thanks again.




  
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Apr 08, 2017 17:18 |  #14

Some laptops have ability to connect to a projector and simultaneously have same image on the laptop monitor and the projector at the same time, for presentations...Simply connect a second monitor instead of the projector!


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