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Apr 18, 2017 23:27 |  #16

Altho I've only seen a limited sample size, it seems to me the bokeh isn't as pleasing as the Canon.


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Apr 19, 2017 00:27 |  #17

The Sigma 135 1.8 is very sharp but I feel like the rendering from focus to out of focus is so abrupt. The rendering isn't pleasing. It looks lilke paper cut out on a background. Oh well, I'm happy with my Sigma 85 1.4 Art.




  
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Apr 19, 2017 01:16 |  #18

The petapixel samples are flat


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Apr 19, 2017 04:56 as a reply to  @ post 18331645 |  #19

The author of that article shoots w/ Canon, yet had this to say:

"For me, the anticipation was high that this lens could fill a gap in the market place that had been vacant for some time."

What does he mean by "vacant"? :-)




  
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Apr 19, 2017 05:50 |  #20
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MatthewK wrote in post #18331836 (external link)
The author of that article shoots w/ Canon, yet had this to say:

"For me, the anticipation was high that this lens could fill a gap in the market place that had been vacant for some time."

What does he mean by "vacant"? :-)

Well, for years there has been a dearth of fast 135mm primes that cost more than the Canon 135L. Yeah! That's the ticket.




  
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Apr 19, 2017 09:21 |  #21

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The Sigma 135 1.8 is very sharp but I feel like the rendering from focus to out of focus is so abrupt. The rendering isn't pleasing. It looks lilke paper cut out on a background. Oh well, I'm happy with my Sigma 85 1.4 Art.

It's all based on distance. Don't like that then move back a bit... Turn it into a full body lens and it'll product better results. Try shooting w/ the 200 F2 too close you get that same thing but full body looks great.


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Apr 19, 2017 09:35 |  #22

Bassat wrote in post #18331850 (external link)
Well, for years there has been a dearth of fast 135mm primes that cost more than the Canon 135L.

:lol:

He probably meant third-party autofocus 135mm lenses.
It should be noted that there have been some nice MF alternatives for a long while.


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Apr 19, 2017 10:35 |  #23
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CheshireCat wrote in post #18331969 (external link)
:lol:

He probably meant third-party autofocus 135mm lenses.
It should be noted that there have been some nice MF alternatives for a long while.

Yes. I loved my Yashica 135mm f/2.8 MLc.




  
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Apr 19, 2017 15:50 |  #24

I'm not/haven't ran right out to buy this lens. This lens for me is a lens I'll pickup when you can get it on the used market sub 1k.

I just don't honestly need it right now. Need to dwindle what I got anyway. Keep it to a 35/85/200 trinity and maybe the 12-24A for the wide angle.


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Apr 19, 2017 16:01 |  #25

Bassat wrote in post #18330980 (external link)
Gear head charts. Nice and all that, but not a photo in sight. I don't spend $1,000 on a lens to look at the charts it produces. This may strike some folks as odd, but the exact same lens can (and does) perform differently on various sensors. I picked up a worn out 28-135 at a garage sale or something. It was atrocious on my then 60D. Pop it on the 5Dc and it was a decent performer. I think the 17-40 is a really good lens for my 6D. I used it on my 80D body. Yuck. My $75 18-55STM performs better on the 80D. MTF charts may be a fair baseline comparison. They are not real results.

Assuming the issue wasn't MFA or other focusing related; remember that the image you see with an EF lens on a full frame body is taken from a projection of the whole image circle from rear of the lens (that is, the image circle projected by the rear of the lens [just] covers the whole of the sensor rectangle).

On a crop body, the lens projection is unchanged, but the sensor only "sees" a smaller region (from the middle) of the projected circle. I.e. the capture from the crop sensor has been taken from a smaller area of the image projected by the lens.

If, through focal length or camera-to-subject distance changes, you took an identically framed shot on a crop body and a FF body, the image taken on the crop will come from a smaller region of the lens' projected circle. That means an identically sized print from a crop body will require the physical lens projection captured by the smaller crop sensor to have been enlarged by ~1.6x more than the capture on the full frame camera.

If the FF print was just acceptable in terms of (lens limited) sharpness, then the crop print won't be acceptable - as you're looking at a 1.6x linear magnification vs the FF image.

Or to put it another way: a crop sensor will more readily stretch the ability of a lens to resolve detail; because you're asking for the whole image to be taken from a smaller area (and thus magnified more).

One flip side to that would be a lens with really good centre sharpness (so no problem on the crop) and really poor edge sharpness. On a FF body you'd notice the poor edges. On the crop body those poor edges would be projected outside the sensor region, so you'd never see them in your photos.


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Apr 19, 2017 17:38 |  #26
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Talley wrote in post #18332306 (external link)
I'm not/haven't ran right out to buy this lens. This lens for me is a lens I'll pickup when you can get it on the used market sub 1k.

I just don't honestly need it right now. Need to dwindle what I got anyway. Keep it to a 35/85/200 trinity and maybe the 12-24A for the wide angle.

I'm pretty happy with my Σ12-24II. Reviews say the 12-24A needs f/5.6 @ 24mm to be its best. My UWA stuff keeps me at f/8-11 for extreme DOF. I don't give a FFA about f/4. The II was 1/3 the price of the A.




  
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Apr 21, 2017 09:06 |  #27

My shop has this on the shelf. I put a down payment on it and put my 135L up for sale. I can't find the sample images for this lens. Does it exist yet? Anyone have a link?


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Apr 26, 2017 21:41 as a reply to  @ Mookalafalas's post |  #28

Started a sample thread at:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1479970

Put up a few--looking forward to seeing what others are doing with this lens!


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