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Apr 24, 2017 09:06 |  #346

mystik610 wrote in post #18336799 (external link)
if you're cool not using the viewfinder then sure.

Yeah, it would be equivalent to mirrorless, just without EVF.


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Apr 24, 2017 09:07 |  #347
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mystik610 wrote in post #18336799 (external link)
if you're cool not using the viewfinder then sure.

mystik610 wrote in post #18336799 (external link)
if you're cool not using the viewfinder then sure.

Yeh, that would be a sight to see, someone holding a 1dx2 along with a 600mm at arms length using the back LCD to track a bird. :-P




  
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Apr 24, 2017 09:08 |  #348

Hogloff wrote in post #18336801 (external link)
Yeh, that would be a sight to see, someone holding a 1dx2 along with a 600mm at arms length using the back LCD to track a bird. :-P

I mean 14 fps through an optical viewfinder is plenty for birds. Just saying Canon can play the numbers game if they wanted to.


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Apr 24, 2017 09:09 |  #349
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idkdc wrote in post #18336800 (external link)
Yeah, it would be equivalent to mirrorless, just without EVF.

No really...try holding that camera so you can see the LCD. Talk about ergonomics...




  
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Apr 24, 2017 09:13 |  #350

Hogloff wrote in post #18336803 (external link)
No really...try holding that camera so you can see the LCD. Talk about ergonomics...

I mean the sensor based focus plus live view signal. The technology is the same. I would prefer OVF anyways, mirrorless don't have that option.


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idkdc wrote in post #18336802 (external link)
I mean 14 fps through an optical viewfinder is plenty for birds. Just saying Canon can play the numbers game if they wanted to.

But it's not a numbers game...the A9 shoots at 20fps in normal use mode...not some convoluted arms length approach.

Yeh, who needs more that 16k in a computer...famous quotes of the past.

Or...who needs full frame...famous quote by Nikon.

Or...who needs 36mb...famous quotes by Canon folk when they did not have a high mpix sensor.




  
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Apr 24, 2017 09:15 |  #352

Hogloff wrote in post #18336807 (external link)
But it's not a numbers game...the A9 shoots at 20fps in normal use mode...not some convoluted arms length approach.

Yeh, who needs more that 16k in a computer...famous quotes of the past.

Or...who needs full frame...famous quote by Nikon.

Or...who needs 36mb...famous quotes by Canon folk when they did not have a high mpix sensor.

Right, but if it proves well, then great, more competition and competitors will follow suit.

Btw I use live view all the time, but sure call it convoluted because you have a DSLR axe to grind.


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Apr 24, 2017 09:20 as a reply to  @ idkdc's post |  #353

Oh hey, what about your native e mount 200-400, 500mm, 600mm and 800mm lenses for tracking your birds while we're up this alley?


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Apr 24, 2017 09:22 |  #354

If only someone could have enough imagination to come up with some kind of accessory that would allow you to more effectively use the rear screen. Some kind of hood or cover, possibly with an eye piece and some simple optics...

But no, there is clearly no way one could possibly build or design a cover for the LCD that would allow it to function similar to an EFV.
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …8&N=3777857691+​3557242289 (external link) none of those exist or could possibly work. That's just insane!


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idkdc wrote in post #18336809 (external link)
Right, but if it proves well, then great, more competition and competitors will follow suit.

Btw I use live view all the time, but sure call it convoluted because you have a DSLR axe to grind.

I use it all the time off a tripod with both my DSLR's and mirrorless cameras. I call it convoluted for those occasions when you are handholding a big lens trying to track a bird or hockey player...that is convoluted any way you look at it. Even you must admit this.




  
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Apr 24, 2017 09:24 |  #356
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idkdc wrote in post #18336813 (external link)
Oh hey, what about your native e mount 200-400, 500mm, 600mm and 800mm lenses for tracking your birds while we're up this alley?

Patience grasshopper, patience. All in good time.

You are probably too young to know what this means.




  
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Apr 24, 2017 09:25 |  #357
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Wilt wrote in post #18336790 (external link)
But I think the question becomes, "Why can Sony not offer 20fps RAW recoding with its own line of lenses (even if it must be a GM lens), and then state something like, 'Lenses from other manufacturers may be limited to 10-12 fps RAW recording'?", and utilize that as a marketing reason why folks should think twice about buying aftermarket brands!

do you read? it been said time and time again "The a9 can shoot at 20fps in raw"


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idkdc wrote in post #18336800 (external link)
Yeah, it would be equivalent to mirrorless, just without EVF.

no it wouldn't be, try using the back LCD on bright sunny day.


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Apr 24, 2017 09:26 |  #359

Hogloff wrote in post #18336816 (external link)
I use it all the time off a tripod with both my DSLR's and mirrorless cameras. I call it convoluted for those occasions when you are handholding a big lens trying to track a bird or hockey player...that is convoluted any way you look at it. Even you must admit this.

If you're handholding, sure. Monopod or tripod with gimbalhead, I don't see the big deal. Add a screen eye cup if it bothers you so much. Works just the same clunkiness as an extra adapter and supertelephoto.


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Luckless wrote in post #18336815 (external link)
If only someone could have enough imagination to come up with some kind of accessory that would allow you to more effectively use the rear screen. Some kind of hood or cover, possibly with an eye piece and some simple optics...

But no, there is clearly no way one could possibly build or design a cover for the LCD that would allow it to function similar to an EFV.
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …8&N=3777857691+​3557242289 (external link) none of those exist or could possibly work. That's just insane!

Ever try those? I have for my 5d2 to keep the glare off the LCD when using the camera on a tripod. You still would need to hold the camera with attached heavy lens away from your body in order to peer through these gadgets. Total fail for handheld fast action photography.




  
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