Sony A9: Is Canon doomed ?

Hogloff wrote in post #18336818
Patience grasshopper, patience. All in good time.

You are probably too young to know what this means.

The reality is that they aren't here yet nor are they on any roadmaps.

Hogloff wrote in post #18336823
Ever try those? I have for my 5d2 to keep the glare off the LCD when using the camera on a tripod. You still would need to hold the camera with attached heavy lens away from your body in order to peer through these gadgets. Total fail for handheld fast action photography.

You're not going to handhold a 500, 600 or 800 for birding. The fps with adapters is 10 fps. So sell the Canon kit, get lower fps anyways.

idkdc wrote in post #18336796
Canon can do 16 fps 11bit in live view DPAF, so I'm sure we can get more fps from newer models if we wanted.

https://www.dpreview.c​om …/canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii/9

why don't you add that negative point to 1dxii in the camera comparison thread that you made... oh right, you won't

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #18336829
https://www.dpreview.c​om …/canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii/9

Good point. Seems like they should be able to do it in DPAF according to DPReview.

Butts wrote in post #18336764
Charlie, isn't LA-EA3 a SONY adapter used for SONY A mount?? I'm confused.....if Metabones can do it surely SONY themselves should be able to do it?? Or is it the LA-EA4??

I know it sounds odd, but it's true. I've owned the LA-EA3, and you cant do updates, and shoots in a hobbled mode. Metabones can shoot in a full native mode, but AF is poor. In the hobbled mode, metabones is basically on par with LA-EA3 except for longer lenses (400mm+).

the 10fps is likely bait, sony doesnt like to give you all the goods until you convert. I have no doubt they can unlock it.

idkdc wrote in post #18336821
If you're handholding, sure. Monopod or tripod with gimbalhead, I don't see the big deal. Add a screen eye cup if it bothers you so much. Works just the same clunkiness as an extra adapter and supertelephoto.

idkdc wrote in post #18336827
You're not going to handhold a 500, 600 or 800 for birding. The fps with adapters is 10 fps. So sell the Canon kit, get lower fps anyways.

Sorry, but those telephotos are handheld all the time for maneuverability. Birds are erratic and unpredictable...you cannot you cannot just setup your monopod and wait.

Firstly I believe you'll see the current Sigma lens use native AF with their adapter and achieve 20fps.

Secondly, Sigma has already said they are making native e-mount lenses.

Thirdly, it wasn't too long ago people were saying were are the professional 2.8 zooms for Sony...well they are here. Sony doesn't move at Canon's snail pace...we'll see these lenses in short order.

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #18336829
https://www.dpreview.c​om …/canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii/9

why don't you add that negative point to 1dxii in the camera comparison thread that you made... oh right, you won't

Lol, you're not purchasing either camera, so what do you care.

Hogloff wrote in post #18336823
Ever try those? I have for my 5d2 to keep the glare off the LCD when using the camera on a tripod. You still would need to hold the camera with attached heavy lens away from your body in order to peer through these gadgets.

Nope.

Notice that many of them have eyepieces. They also have optics that allow you see what is going on with great clarity.

Only difference is that the camera is three inches further from your body and two inches higher.

Hogloff wrote in post #18336838
Sorry, but those telephotos are handheld all the time for maneuverability. Birds are erratic and unpredictable...you cannot you cannot just setup your monopod and wait.

Firstly I believe you'll see the current Sigma lens use native AF with their adapter and achieve 20fps.

Secondly, Sigma has already said they are making native e-mount lenses.

Thirdly, it wasn't too long ago people were saying were are the professional 2.8 zooms for Sony...well they are here. Sony doesn't move at Canon's snail pace...we'll see these lenses in short order.

Yeah, that means they're ready for weddings now. They weren't back when they had nothing but f4 lenses. Those are all good points and good news if true.

I don't bird, I just shoot PAC12. There was one guy hand holding a super tele for one game then he switched to monopod ever since.

Hogloff wrote in post #18336823
Ever try those? I have for my 5d2 to keep the glare off the LCD when using the camera on a tripod. You still would need to hold the camera with attached heavy lens away from your body in order to peer through these gadgets. Total fail for handheld fast action photography.

Don't think I've used one specifically from that list, but I have used a very nice and comfortable setup for rear LCD viewing. It mounted to the camera's tripod socket and even included the option of a shoulder stock, and honestly made me reconsider the setup I use for birding. (The setup I borrowed from the photographer in question even had an after market adaption to it that let him switch between looking at the LCD and looking through a simple wide-field periscope to aid in finding a target by flipping a lever with your thumb. Was very neat.)

idkdc wrote in post #18336840
Lol, you're not purchasing either camera, so what do you care.

oh really
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18335990

I don't have to proof anything to you, but I used 1dxii on few occasions, I would never buy that brick.

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18336843
Nope.

Notice that many of them have eyepieces. They also have optics that allow you see what is going on with great clarity.

Only difference is that the camera is three inches further from your body and two inches higher.

That difference is huge. Being 3" away from your body makes holding the system steady extremely difficult if not impossible. You'll need at least a monopod which restricts your mobility and how fast you can react to changing action.

Kludge at best, not usable at worst.

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #18336848
oh really
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18335990

I don't have to proof anything to you, but I used 1dxii on few occasions, I would never buy one.

Nice, didn't see that. I'm thinking of adding it to my 1DXII's.

Im more interested in seeing who is actually looking at buying these 400mm, 600mm, 800mm primes.