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Apr 24, 2018 20:39 |  #15691

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Apr 24, 2018 23:42 |  #15693

I was practicing some flash ambient earlier today. I'll post the ambient and then the final flash/ambient mix. I think the flambient (yep that's what the RE guys call it) looks pretty crisp. To me it looks a bit flashy still even though I mixed in some of the ambient. The positive is no color casts to deal with. Let me know what you think?

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Flambient mix with a window pull (really like this for clean window masks). You basically flash the windows (no that kind of flash you perv :). Then you change the mode on that layer to darken. Simple and effective without any luminosity masking.
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Apr 25, 2018 00:00 |  #15694

i know that darken mode technique from Rich Baum but i'm so lazy to use my strobe. lol. i should try it. very clean. great job brother.


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Apr 25, 2018 00:19 |  #15695

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i know that darken mode technique from Rich Baum but i'm so lazy to use my strobe. lol. i should try it. very clean. great job brother.

Thank you Vinz. Yep I have been watching his videos and also Nathan Cool. This was my first attempt and will continue to practice. I only have one Godox speedlight. I think the evolv 200 would be a nice addition. Not sure about using a strobe just yet in the field. I will continue to bracket and blend my shots as I am comfortable doing that but this flambient technique is good to learn.


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Apr 25, 2018 02:17 |  #15696

my freinds dog at the beach over the weekend with the 24-240 and into the sun with a rokinon 14mmf2.8 manual,

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Apr 25, 2018 02:24 |  #15697

7artisans f2.8fisheye and 24-240. the fish is a native e mount and works great on the a7iii.

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Apr 25, 2018 05:07 |  #15698

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Thank you Vinz. Yep I have been watching his videos and also Nathan Cool. This was my first attempt and will continue to practice. I only have one Godox speedlight. I think the evolv 200 would be a nice addition. Not sure about using a strobe just yet in the field. I will continue to bracket and blend my shots as I am comfortable doing that but this flambient technique is good to learn.

i think the AD200 must be good enough for window pull. for interior flash shot, just add a bit of ISO if you feel you you need more juice from it.

I should try it. I have bought the AD200 and AD600.


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Apr 25, 2018 08:06 |  #15700

digital_AM wrote in post #18613000 (external link)
I was practicing some flash ambient earlier today. I'll post the ambient and then the final flash/ambient mix. I think the flambient (yep that's what the RE guys call it) looks pretty crisp. To me it looks a bit flashy still even though I mixed in some of the ambient. The positive is no color casts to deal with. Let me know what you think?

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Flambient mix with a window pull (really like this for clean window masks). You basically flash the windows (no that kind of flash you perv :). Then you change the mode on that layer to darken. Simple and effective without any luminosity masking.
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Of the two, I think I prefer the ambient only version. I like the high key look. I would just suggest adding a hue/saturation adjustment layer and then reducing the saturation on cyan. It's especially noticeable towards the lower left of the bed on my monitor.


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Apr 25, 2018 08:10 |  #15701

digital_AM wrote in post #18613000 (external link)
I was practicing some flash ambient earlier today. I'll post the ambient and then the final flash/ambient mix. I think the flambient (yep that's what the RE guys call it) looks pretty crisp. To me it looks a bit flashy still even though I mixed in some of the ambient. The positive is no color casts to deal with. Let me know what you think?

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The first shot has a more pleasing aesthetic, but if it's a real estate shot and the intention is to highlight the room, the windows become a distraction as your eyes are pulled towards the brightest part of the frame. The light from those windows really dominate that first photo and it's all I see.

Second shot seems to focus more attention on the room itself.


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Apr 25, 2018 08:17 |  #15702

I agree with Carlo. The blown out windows tends to become like eye magnet to me.

the first 3 were from the Laowa and the last one was from the FE35.

Here's my first really thought out twilights shots. All single raw. Just shot at the right time.

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Apr 25, 2018 08:30 |  #15703

I was using silent shooting on those because.... too high and may wobble in mechanical shutter.

i added a couple of tripod extension. I controlled the camera using playmemories on my wife's mini ipad.

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Apr 25, 2018 08:53 |  #15704

navydoc wrote in post #18613141 (external link)
Of the two, I think I prefer the ambient only version. I like the high key look. I would just suggest adding a hue/saturation adjustment layer and then reducing the saturation on cyan. It's especially noticeable towards the lower left of the bed on my monitor.

Thanks Gene. This was just a test to compare ambient with flash/ambient. I didn't do much editing to the ambient but I agree with your adjustment recommendations. I don't plan to do real estate. This was to prepare for an upcoming shoot at a hotel on a military base. The client said the rooms were very dark so I wanted to have some options.

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The first shot has a more pleasing aesthetic, but if it's a real estate shot and the intention is to highlight the room, the windows become a distraction as your eyes are pulled towards the brightest part of the frame. The light from those windows really dominate that first photo and it's all I see.

Second shot seems to focus more attention on the room itself.

Thanks Carlo. Agree that the overblown windows draw the eye in. I also prefer the natural shot but see the benefit of using flash too. I should take some brackets and process it using my normal workflow to compare. It may be a good balance between the ambient shot and the flash shot.


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Apr 25, 2018 08:56 |  #15705

my blue birds that have been staked out in our yard for months...abandoned the house and built elsewhere...have not seen them in weeks...


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