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May 26, 2018 13:11 |  #17011

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It's a staple lens for me. I've had two copies, and neither have any centering issues as far as I can tell. The rendering of the Sony is something special. Very nice bokeh, which is rare for a 35.

excellent but the QC is quite bad it seems?


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May 26, 2018 13:11 |  #17012

Yes to all. Congrats. Congrats.


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May 26, 2018 13:24 |  #17013

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Question for y'all.

I received the A7RIII a couple of days ago. Loving it so far.

Being the lazy guy I am, I have not read through the manuals. Are there different ways to configure the dual card slots (write to one, then the other vs. use one as a backup copy to the other)?
Can the cards in both slots be of different sizes?

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May 26, 2018 13:25 |  #17014

look at this comparison. I shoot Raw+Jpeg. Notice how different is the histogram on the jpeg? That's what we're seeing that's why it can fool us. Any ideas?

I turned on my DRO to LEVEL4 on this. Now I'm thinking the DRO might be the one fooling me because it's giving me a a correct jpeg preview and histogram. Did i just answered my own question? I will experience on both.

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May 26, 2018 13:38 |  #17016

vinmunoz wrote in post #18633180 (external link)
look at this comparison. I shoot Raw+Jpeg. Notice how different is the histogram on the jpeg? That's what we're seeing that's why it can fool us. Any ideas?

I turned on my DRO to LEVEL4 on this. Now I'm thinking the DRO might be the one fooling me because it's giving me a a correct jpeg preview and histogram. Did i just answered my own question? I will experience on both.

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AFAIK, DRO is just so it's easier to see in the field. It's basically pulling shadows SOOC for the jpeg, doesnt affect the raw.


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May 26, 2018 13:43 |  #17017

and because of that it fools us right? it works for the jpeg but we edit raw, the jpeg are just there as a backup.


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May 26, 2018 13:52 |  #17018

vinmunoz wrote in post #18633193 (external link)
and because of that it fools us right? it works for the jpeg but we edit raw, the jpeg are just there as a backup.

pretty much. I use it often because I want a flatish photo show in the rear lcd, just easier to see. Just need to be aware of what's going on.

I'm thinking the flash should have been stronger? Either way, I think I would have underexposed the scene while keeping flash levels at 0.


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May 26, 2018 14:02 |  #17019

looking at the jpeg yah i think it needs a couple of clicks. The strobe was in manual mode and HSS, the client does not like blown out skies.

i just test now, both DRO ON and DRO OFF still yields "0" on the camera light meter and the histogram are identical. which made me think Sony is really like a stop underexpose.

I hope they'll be able to set histogram base on the raw not from a jpeg preview.


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May 26, 2018 14:09 |  #17020

I’m confused.

If your metering then it won’t matter right?


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May 26, 2018 14:31 |  #17021

AlanU wrote in post #18633162 (external link)
You can't uplift shadows using the slider in LR?

At f/2.2, iso 100 on the subject a speedlight can easily supply enough light.

HSS to me is run gun as that type of lighting is NOT consistent like shooting all manual. Issue is if you want the "pop" factor you'd need to do some investment in a selection of ND filters with strobe work (limited to max flash sync) or you can buy a variable ND filter but you may need to deal with colour shift in post.

You would imagine shooting all available light should give you properly exposed background and then adjust fill flash on the subject to "taste" HSS should be that simple. I wonder if it's just some settings in camera. I just don't use my Sony setup for hired jobs like that.

The practice shot you've provided can easily be achieved with little effort with speedlight on shoe. The leaves in the focus plane displays hard light. Was the strobe in a softbox?

At f/2.2 I would have guessed the GM 85 should have decimated the trees in the background to more creamy bliss.

Did you shoot natural light as a secondary approach to these files you're submitting to the client? I do this from time to time when I feel people (client) would appreciate 2 approaches to an image look. I think available light would have uplifted the background while you concentrated on the subjects exposure with available light. Available light would have looked easier on the eyes instead of flash look.

There’s no problem fixing in post but i prefer to have it right in camera. I have to do hss because the client don’t want blownout skies but at the same time shallow DOF that’s why i’m at f2.2

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May 26, 2018 14:53 |  #17022

Talley wrote in post #18633217 (external link)
I’m confused.

If your metering then it won’t matter right?

Bv qj

I should do spot metering first for the sky then flash metering.

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May 26, 2018 15:42 |  #17023

vinmunoz wrote in post #18633236 (external link)
Bv qj

I should do spot metering first for the sky then flash metering.

#lazytousemymeter.

Have you tried using highlight metering? It'll meter to preserve the sky...and you can dial in your light accordingly. I personally just use ETTL.


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May 26, 2018 16:10 |  #17024

Killing some time this morning, made a mini time lapse.


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May 26, 2018 16:43 |  #17025

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Killing some time this morning, made a mini time lapse.

Charlie those 30 seconds were a joy to watch...Thanks man!!


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