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Jun 05, 2018 14:20 |  #17296

Just looked at the rumoured specs of the Batis 40 CF (whatever CF means?) and it says it has a focus limiter switch with the following range - (Full / ∞ ~ 0.4 m / 0.5 m to 0.24 m).

Why would you want a focus limiter on a 40mm lens? Is that not normally a Macro feature?


It also says “Batis Size close to 85mm (40mm is slightly smaller)” - what does that even mean??


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Jun 05, 2018 14:24 |  #17297

vinmunoz wrote in post #18639674 (external link)
I agree. I would save and buy the A6500 instead.

TRhoads wrote in post #18639678 (external link)
the advantage of the RX is the size...and built in lens.

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It's an odd camera. Specs are great, but how many people really need 24fps and a9 caliber AF in a p&s? O
I'd like to see sony do more larger sensor, fast glass p&s cameras. Ricoh GR type stuff

Maybe I'm the minority but I really like the RX100 series. I have an RX100 III and have been wanting an upgrade. Was waiting for the VI to come out so I could decide between the latest and greatest, or hope the price on the V will go down a bit.

I also have an A6500 and the RX100 still appeals to me (mostly for traveling). The A6500 barely stuffs into a large jacket pocket; the RX100 fits easily, or can even fit in a pants pocket. Honestly an A6500 with the 16-50 kit lens does not produce noticeably better photos than the RX100, but is larger/heavier/more expensive (the RX100 lens is about 2 stops faster, which negates the difference in ISO performance between the cameras). The A6500 doesn't shine until you start adding lenses, but this also adds cost/size/weight.

I've also started doing some underwater photography and the cost of a housing adds to the price difference between the two options. Using Fantasea as an example, the RX100 housing costs $399 (and I think I got mine on sale for $350), the A6500 housing is $998 with a lens port.




  
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Jun 05, 2018 14:24 |  #17298

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I wish I knew, otherwise it behaves like a native lens on the R3 and R2.

I've put through thousands of frames by now, not a single hiccup, does video well too. At close distances, the focus is slower, but not much to worry about. But that weight though :-P

it's a hefty lens, and I really want a 35mm smaller than the 85mm, preferably the size of the 50mm or smaller..... like pancake :-D

Yeah. Hefty......! Put's me off....... :(

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I’m in!!!!!! Man, hope this is correct. I was wanting a 35 but could live with an AF 40. The cv40 seemed like a perfect one lens option but I need AF

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Just looked at the rumoured specs of the Batis 40 CF (whatever CF means?) and it says it has a focus limiter switch with the following range - (Full / ∞ ~ 0.4 m / 0.5 m to 0.24 m).

Why would you want a focus limiter on a 40mm lens? Is that not normally a Macro feature?


It also says “Batis Size close to 85mm (40mm is slightly smaller)” - what does that even mean??

CF - Could mean "close focus" so limiting switch which doesn't the 135L have something similar....??

I presume it's going to be slightly smaller than the Batis 85mm. I hope their size guestimates are more accurate than Sigma's....? ;) :lol:

67mm filters though. That's one plus ;-)a


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Jun 05, 2018 14:33 |  #17299

Ahh, I get it now. I’ts close in size to the B85. I would have thought a 40mm could be smaller than that. CF could mean close focus but 24cm doesn’t seem that close. I also don’t get why you would want a limiter in a 40mm lens that isn’t a macro.

Starting to wonder if 40mm is too close to the 55 which I don’t want to part with. My initial excitement there has dipped a bit. I wish the B25 was a B28


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Jun 05, 2018 14:49 |  #17300

I am 85mm not 55mm so 40mm isn't too bad in that regard.


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Jun 05, 2018 14:56 |  #17301

LeeRatters wrote in post #18639757 (external link)
Yeah. Hefty......! Put's me off....... :(

CF - Could mean "close focus" so limiting switch which doesn't the 135L have something similar....??

I presume it's going to be slightly smaller than the Batis 85mm. I hope their size guestimates are more accurate than Sigma's....? ;) :lol:

67mm filters though. That's one plus ;-)a

while I use all 67mm filters, I can see this being a minus. It means that the lens will most certainly be pretty big for what it is.

400g would be the absolute limit for this lens IMO, 300, would be ok, 200g would be great, but impossible ;-)a

it does give me great hope that the mythical 35 f2 will be addressed down the line. It's a high volume focal length, and it's sort of a disservice to force people's hand on high end prices first, but whatevers. I'll wait for it, and live with the hassles of the switching 2.8 for 1.4 when I have to.


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Jun 05, 2018 15:15 |  #17302

A7mkiii iso invariance test

I read a page saying that the A7mkiii uses iso invariance (along with other models) meaning you can shoot astro as very low iso's and just push the exposure in post and get the same noise as a higher shot. I think I have this right. Anyway, I gave it a shot last night.
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Jun 05, 2018 17:04 |  #17303

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Jun 05, 2018 17:53 |  #17304

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Maybe I'm the minority but I really like the RX100 series. I have an RX100 III and have been wanting an upgrade. Was waiting for the VI to come out so I could decide between the latest and greatest, or hope the price on the V will go down a bit.

I also have an A6500 and the RX100 still appeals to me (mostly for traveling). The A6500 barely stuffs into a large jacket pocket; the RX100 fits easily, or can even fit in a pants pocket. Honestly an A6500 with the 16-50 kit lens does not produce noticeably better photos than the RX100, but is larger/heavier/more expensive (the RX100 lens is about 2 stops faster, which negates the difference in ISO performance between the cameras). The A6500 doesn't shine until you start adding lenses, but this also adds cost/size/weight.

I've also started doing some underwater photography and the cost of a housing adds to the price difference between the two options. Using Fantasea as an example, the RX100 housing costs $399 (and I think I got mine on sale for $350), the A6500 housing is $998 with a lens port.

I think the RX100V looks more appealing to me. I'd take the 24-70 f1.8-2.8 equivalent over the slow super-zoom.


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Jun 05, 2018 18:11 |  #17305

mystik610 wrote in post #18639889 (external link)
I think the RX100V looks more appealing to me. I'd take the 24-70 f1.8-2.8 equivalent over the slow super-zoom.

I think the idea behind the range vs aperture was a way to differentiate the camera from cell phones. Cell phones that have dual lenses can practically work like a 24-70, and in low light, I think that's where these cameras are throwing in the towel. Instead, they focus on good lighting where larger apertures are not needed.

I played with a friend's RX100V and it's an impressive little camera. When it comes to indoor shooting, I imagine it goes to crap really fast, and I think that's where these types of cameras stop trying to compete.


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Jun 05, 2018 18:32 |  #17306

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Jun 05, 2018 18:38 |  #17307

gaabnz wrote in post #18639798 (external link)
A7mkiii iso invariance test

I read a page saying that the A7mkiii uses iso invariance (along with other models) meaning you can shoot astro as very low iso's and just push the exposure in post and get the same noise as a higher shot. I think I have this right. Anyway, I gave it a shot last night.
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That is the basic idea, and what I have done when shooting the r2...shoot at 1600 and push a stop + in post...did you compare to a higher ISO image to see if there was much difference?


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Jun 05, 2018 19:18 |  #17308

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Jun 05, 2018 19:19 |  #17309

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Jun 05, 2018 19:29 |  #17310

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