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Jul 11, 2019 07:55 |  #30631

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Can't say I blame you!

I'm jealous! I can't wait to hear what your impressions of it are, just size and weight alone have me impressed.

Yeah its a bit more expensive than I thought it would be.

OTOH it leads me to believe that it isn't budget caliber in terms of optics either.

I'm really disliking larger lenses more and more, so the size and faster aperture are the priority. You've posted great stuff with the FE 85 1.8....I'm hoping the FE 35 is of the same caliber.

I think a GM version of this lens would be on the large side....24GM is a little bit bigger than I'd like.


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Jul 11, 2019 09:10 |  #30632

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Hard pass.

It looks like the extreme designs is Sigma's way of copying Canon? Canon 1.2 RF primes are absolutely massive and sigma wants that market.


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Jul 11, 2019 09:20 |  #30633

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It looks like the extreme designs is Sigma's way of copying Canon? Canon 1.2 RF primes are absolutely massive and sigma wants that market.

It's a stupid trend IMO.

Lenses are getting unreasonably large and expensive because they're chasing MTF charts, but we've hit a point of diminishing returns IMO. How big of a deal is it that a lens is blisteringly sharp at f1.2? The DOF is tiny for most images at that aperture

Plus a lot of these really aggressive lens designs tend be worse off in terms of rendering....

I have no idea how the voigtlander 40 measures up in terms of sharpness because it isn't reviewed by your typical 'lets measure everything!' reviewers....but I'm blown away by the output of the lens. I think a lot of times its better to now know how something measures on an MTF chart so you don't build a bias towards/against it.


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Jul 11, 2019 09:38 |  #30634

On this day fifty-six years ago, on July 11, 1963, my two best friends and I enlisted in the US Navy shortly after graduating from high school. Unfortunately, one of us had a medical issue and failed the physical. We had all been guaranteed Dental Technician Class "A" School after boot camp and were going in on the "Buddy" system. Jim was a Kiddy Cruiser too. We were informed that San Diego RTC was closed due to an outbreak of Meningitis and that we were being sent to Great Lakes RTC instead.

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Jul 11, 2019 10:05 |  #30635

FE 35 1.8 Pre-ordered!

Fun fact....converted to USD, if you ordered from CAD, the lens is 611.

No political talk, but I have a hunch as to why people are freaking out over the price.


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Jul 11, 2019 10:20 |  #30636

mystik610 wrote in post #18891843 (external link)
It's a stupid trend IMO.

Lenses are getting unreasonably large and expensive because they're chasing MTF charts, but we've hit a point of diminishing returns IMO. How big of a deal is it that a lens is blisteringly sharp at f1.2? The DOF is tiny for most images at that aperture

Plus a lot of these really aggressive lens designs tend be worse off in terms of rendering....

I have no idea how the voigtlander 40 measures up in terms of sharpness because it isn't reviewed by your typical 'lets measure everything!' reviewers....but I'm blown away by the output of the lens. I think a lot of times its better to now know how something measures on an MTF chart so you don't build a bias towards/against it.

My standard is the FE 35 f2.8, FE 85 f1.8, Tamron 28-75, all I consider sharp wide open. I think most of the SY primes also fall in this category, but generally lack the refined AF. I've got one prime, that is ultra sharp wide open, the 135A, which is nice, and I bought it due to a lack of alternatives. Hard to spot the difference 1:2, can definitely spot at 1:1... However at a huge weight penalty, and probably the fairest compared to the 2.0 lenses from sigma. The 35 f1.2 is over 3x the Sony 1.8, the existing 1.4's are massive, this one is 50% Heavier than those variants, pretty bold. While I love photography, the size has always been an issue, only so much I can put up with.

On the other hand, the 14-24 f2.8 is absolutely fair coming in at 800g, that's a very modest weight for that lens. 45 f2.8, only 200g, but Samyang is a full stop faster... Weighs less.... Same with the Sony 50.... Being a video centric lens, it seems to have its own niche, so not all is lost.

Overall, you're in very good hands if you're looking to build a Sony FF system, lots of variety.


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Jul 11, 2019 10:30 |  #30637

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All these lens options, it’s so hard to make decisions, or should I say it’s so hard not to get caught up in GAS. I’m actually half considering just going back to the FE28/FE55 combo again in addition to my zooms. Life was simple back then.

It would be my third time buying each lens though :-P

That’s my favorite “walk around” combo


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Jul 11, 2019 10:35 |  #30638

mystik610 wrote in post #18891791 (external link)
I'm going to pre-order the 35 f1. 8. Have been waiting for this lens forever.

If it works out, I'll sell the 35 1.4za and keep the 35 1.8 for AF, and voigtlander 40 for super fast aperture and rendering

I’m going to get one too, but I’m in no rush and will probably wait until the first sale comes up.


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Jul 11, 2019 10:48 |  #30639

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My standard is the FE 35 f2.8, FE 85 f1.8, Tamron 28-75, all I consider sharp wide open. I think most of the SY primes also fall in this category, but generally lack the refined AF. I've got one prime, that is ultra sharp wide open, the 135A, which is nice, and I bought it due to a lack of alternatives. Hard to spot the difference 1:2, can definitely spot at 1:1... However at a huge weight penalty, and probably the fairest compared to the 2.0 lenses from sigma. The 35 f1.2 is over 3x the Sony 1.8, the existing 1.4's are massive, this one is 50% Heavier than those variants, pretty bold. While I love photography, the size has always been an issue, only so much I can put up with.

On the other hand, the 14-24 f2.8 is absolutely fair coming in at 800g, that's a very modest weight for that lens. 45 f2.8, only 200g, but Samyang is a full stop faster... Weighs less.... Same with the Sony 50.... Being a video centric lens, it seems to have its own niche, so not all is lost.

Overall, you're in very good hands if you're looking to build a Sony FF system, lots of variety.

Yes when it comes to the actual photography, size is an absolute consideration because it does not matter how great a lens is if you don't shoot with it. I think this is discounted more than it should be.

I've always maintained dual kits...paid and personal kits. For my paid work, size isn't a consideration, but for my own photography, it absolutely does.

That said, it is nice to have a selection of superlative lenses too. The beauty of the FE system right now is choice.


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Jul 11, 2019 10:48 |  #30640

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I’m going to get one too, but I’m in no rush and will probably wait until the first sale comes up.

This is probably what I'll do, too. I'm certainly happy enough with my recently-acquired FE 28/2 that I can patiently wait for them to dip under $600, even if that means waiting 'til Black Friday or beyond. I'll be interested to see how it sells in the meantime. I hope that it falls a little flat at MSRP and encourages a downward adjustment.

I would still like to see some more real-world pics, too. The promo images are certainly sharp enough, but they don't seem to have the same kind of micro-contrast that even the 28/2 has (which is good, but not quite as good what my ol' Contax lenses can deliver).


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Jul 11, 2019 10:57 |  #30641

KayakPhotos wrote in post #18891898 (external link)
I’m going to get one too, but I’m in no rush and will probably wait until the first sale comes up.


WhyFi wrote in post #18891909 (external link)
This is probably what I'll do, too. I'm certainly happy enough with my recently-acquired FE 28/2 that I can patiently wait for them to dip under $600, even if that means waiting 'til Black Friday or beyond. I'll be interested to see how it sells in the meantime. I hope that it falls a little flat at MSRP and encourages a downward adjustment.

I would still like to see some more real-world pics, too. The promo images are certainly sharp enough, but they don't seem to have the same kind of micro-contrast that even the 28/2 has (which is good, but not quite as good what my ol' Contax lenses can deliver).

Same. I am interested but certainly want the price to drop in all honesty. With the CV40 1.2E and the Samyang 35/2.8 as back up there's certainly no rush. And availability is going to be after my main holiday this summer anyway.


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My car is naturally aspirated and runs on 94 octane pump gas. I have many friends that run Race gas and higher compression in their street cars in the US.

I actually was intending to run a mild 75 shot of nitrous to run in the 10's but decided family life was more important. I retired my fun street car from the track as family obligations took precedence.

In Canada you'd need to buy a barrel of race fuel as it's difficult to find any places in close proximity with higher octane than 94.

The quaiffe diff makes this car feel super stable while running a slow 109MPH in the 1/4 mile. My cylinder heads are setup for street for higher port velocity and driveability so I'm not fully ported for the track. I should be making more HP with larger heads and faster ET's and MPH. I don't miss 1.5 foot wheelies at the track....well ok...I'm lying :P

I miss the smell of melting slicks but now I document cars/vw blowing up engines and having fun at the track.

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Jul 11, 2019 11:44 |  #30643

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I would be interested in the 14-24 IF the hood was removable, based on the shared image it doesn't look like that will be the case but hopefully I'm wrong.

I was thinking the same thing, and also not bulbous


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Jul 11, 2019 11:46 |  #30644

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I'm going to pre-order the 35 f1. 8. Have been waiting for this lens forever.

If it works out, I'll sell the 35 1.4za and keep the 35 1.8 for AF, and voigtlander 40 for super fast aperture and rendering

hmmm...maybe I will buy another lens from you...LOL!


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