Sony Lounge Thread MKIII (All Sony cameras welcome)

Gorgeous shot, Daniel.

A7RIV noise performance is worst than the A7RIII?

https://enthusiastphot​oblog.com …s4ZXM8Qg-vx8GMauX0Ec3TU-8

Eyeing a 35 1.4 on FM..2nd owner
But the new 1.8 is available now..(about 2oo cheaper than the used 1.4 after taxes)

Decisions , decisions .. the 28 f2 just doesn't do it for portraits , I tried and I just dont like it.. for street its great , f8 auto iso and I'm good... Or for date night with gf or casual family gatherings , great for its size and f2 isnt bad for dimly lit restaurants so the 28 is going no where as it has its purpose.. but for portraits id like a 35


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Considering the higher MP I would have not expected better noise and at best par but the article does sort of say that.

Imaging-resource doesn’t equalize the print sizes, so it was difficult to judge whether the Sony A7riv images were really truly noisier.

but the difference between the Sony A7riii and Sony A7riv is pretty minor in my opinion.





Now, let’s start looking at what happens to noise at high ISO raw files:
Comparison of full size crops of Sony A7r4, Sony A7r3, Sony A7iii and Canon R, ISO 512000

The Sony A7riv is clearly the noisiest of the four cameras, but it’s also the most enlarged image. What happens when we downsize all the cameras to the equivalent of the Sony A7iii?
Downsized comparisons at ISO 512000 of Sony A7riv, Sony A7riii, Sony A7iii and Canon R

They are all now pretty close. To my eye, the Canon R looks the worst. The Sony A7iii and Sony A7riii look about the same. But the Sony A7riv looks a bit worse than the other two Sony cameras, especially with color noise in the blacks.

Some preliminary conclusions pending my own testing and confirmation:

At ISO 6400, all 3 Sony cameras look good, they are all slightly better than the Canon R, which is starting to show noise
At ISO 12,800, the Sony A7riv starts to show a bit more noise than the A7riii and A7iii, but not as bad as the Canon R. Differences are minor.
At ISO 25,600-51,200, the Sony A7riv looks much worse than the Sony A7riii and Sony A7iii, though still not as bad as the Canon R.
At maximum ISO, 102,000, the Sony A7riv looks really bad, just as bad as the Canon R. While the Sony A7riii and Sony A7iii looks better.

What Does it Mean for the User?

These noise differences at high ISO are truly not that significant. But it appears the user or prospective buyer should be aware that the high ISO image quality on the Sony A7riv may be a small step below the A7riii and Sony A7iii. At the same time, the gain in resolution from 42mp to 61mp is also realistically only a small step, in practicality. So you are possibly trading a small loss in high ISO image quality for a small gain in resolution.

If you routinely shoot at high ISO (over 12,800), then you might not want to upgrade to the Sony A7riv solely for the resolution. (Though you may have other reasons for wanting to upgrade). If you mostly shoot at lower ISO, then you are likely to appreciate the higher resolution without any image quality downside.

vinmunoz wrote in post #18925141
A7RIV noise performance is worst than the A7RIII?

https://enthusiastphot​oblog.com …s4ZXM8Qg-vx8GMauX0Ec3TU-8

when they were equalized, the R4 had better detail than the R3 while maintaining same noise. This can be seen when you have the lowest resolution camera being the R3 (compare the S1R, R3, and Z7).

I know it's a noise comparison test but what stands out to me is the color differences.

maxblack wrote in post #18925153
I know it's a noise comparison test but what stands out to me is the color differences.

Yah the RIV are too yellows specially the skin tones.

maxblack wrote in post #18925153
I know it's a noise comparison test but what stands out to me is the color differences.

I agree but then I would have to ask what the settings were or if it is a AWB issue on that. I dont know but my A74 is sitting at my Receptionist desk !!!!

DTM (German touring car) race using A9 with the 200 - 600mm + x1.4 at 694mm

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As you can tell I should never take pics with my cellular phone.

Wow it feels good in the hand. I have large hands and this is nice but I would say that it is a Full Frame body it just feels big and even a bit heavy. It is definitely front heavy with no lens on so that will only be more so.... that handle protrudes. I put the Tamron 28-75 on it and it feels good fingers dont pinch on the lens or anything.

The Shutter has a sweet sound its a bit "muffled".

The exposure comp dial is really cool. The lock button is set so you can push it and it pops up leaving the wheel free push it down and it locks the wheel down.... i.e. you dont have to hold it down to turn the comp.....this is handy because its awkward as hell to try to do it while shooting. Battery came in almost empty so waiting on that to charge. Took a couple of dry shots on it.. The focus dots act differently than on the A9 or 7R2 they take a bit of the shape of the thing in focus so if i was focusing on a lens cap i could get a straight line of dots on the TAMRON but if i quickly moved the lens to focus on the cap it was more circular.

took a shot at 12800 and in camera it looked good

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David Arbogast wrote in post #18924881
The tenth most expensive city in the world is beautiful.

Nice one Daniel.

Thanks David! It's crazy Sydney is only 10th as it's becoming almost impossible for a first time home buyers to buy something even remotely close to the CBD.

itsallart wrote in post #18925086
Gorgeous shot, Daniel.

Thanks Renata

Klystron wrote in post #18925222
DTM (German touring car) race using A9 with the 200 - 600mm + x1.4 at 694mm

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cool! Nice to see another racecar fan in here, keep me company! I will be flooding the place with racecar images in about a months time...

CV40

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LeeRatters wrote in post #18925260
CV40

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CV21

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Liking the first one here a little more...but both have great atmosphere...looks like a great place to spend some time.

TRhoads wrote in post #18925256
cool! Nice to see another racecar fan in here, keep me company! I will be flooding the place with racecar images in about a months time...

We do have a pretty good raceway here in Phoenix. I dont get out to it much anymore. This was a practice session back in 2016. Shot with my now for sale 7R2(will PM you Travis) and the 50mm for some reason.

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