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Jan 22, 2020 22:23 |  #36676

Dlee13 wrote in post #18996730 (external link)
No I can’t really fault the Sony about anything. I think I’m just more used to the way a f/1.4 renders full body images wide open compared to an f/1.8. Aside from that, the Sony is amazing.

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Jan 22, 2020 22:48 |  #36677

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Jan 22, 2020 23:15 |  #36678

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Thanks. It was a good spot for it at the end of the day...

Having used both the 85 and 135 side by side now for an engagement shoot, a wedding and a family session...they both have their uses. For close range portraits, the working distance of the 85 is better...the 135 AF is insanely fast, and delivers a look that is a little different than the 85. I have not shot the same comp back to back to compare the look, but it is very close to the same when filling the same amount of the frame. The reach of the 135 and that fast aperture was nice for the wedding, really nice. But once the ceremony was over, it was 85/35 the rest of the night...they are both very competant lenses, very similar rendering and bokeh, if I can figure out a way to have them both in the bag then I will...

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I decided to go on a hunt...I felt like I had shot the same scene with both lenses...and I had...comps were a little different, so I just lined them up as best I could...it cropped the top off one and the bottom from the other...I applied the exact same WB to both. Outside of that not much done to these yet...just for display purpose only... Exposures were a little different, as were ISO values...color from the a7III seems to be a bit more accurate. I liked the angle on that one better too. But as you can see...minimal difference shooting both wide open when you set the frame very similar.

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Thanks for your input and taking the time to dig up the pictures. the 135 looks really good!! 135@1.8 shows how much more bokeh you can get as well as the background coming more forward. I think the 135 is awesome when it comes to full body shots + space while the 85 is more focused on the model/subject. Ive been amazed with the 85 and its such a fantastic lens and focal length that I dont regret the purchase. Seems the 135 1.8 is a much better portrait lens over the 70-200 at 2.8. now let's see sony come out with their version of 200 f2 :P




  
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Jan 22, 2020 23:29 |  #36679

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Example shots?

Example shots of what? The lenses to compare?

I haven’t owned both at the same time but I remember Jason Vong did a comparison of the Sony FE f.1.8 vs the GM and the way the f/1.4 rendered the OOF areas at f/1.8 was softer/nicer compared to the f/1.8 lens.

I’ve seen the same with the Canon lenses compared too.


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Jan 22, 2020 23:30 |  #36680

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Jan 23, 2020 01:00 |  #36681

Another advantage of shooting in crop mode=keeinng the lens away from the splashes :)
I do wonder, crop sensor cameras have greater DOF than FF, mFT even more than APS-C.
So when using the Riv and going into crop mode, does my DOF change????

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Jan 23, 2020 01:06 |  #36682

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Another advantage of shooting in crop mode=keeinng the lens away from the splashes :)
I do wonder, crop sensor cameras have greater DOF than FF, mFT even more than APS-C.
So when using the Riv and going into crop mode, does my DOF change????


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They are technically the same, you just have to get further back to get the same framing which is what creates the greater DOF since it’s shooting from a further distance.


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Jan 23, 2020 07:36 |  #36683

This is a crop of a photograph from my 4 x 5 Speed Graphic camera. My scanner isn't capable of scanning negatives that large so I need to either crop or do two scans and then merge in PS.

EDIT: I decided to use a different image taken with my Speed Graphic, one without me in it. :-)

(I was thinking *Sony* the whole time I scanned this image. I hope that counts for my posting this here. :-) )

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Jan 23, 2020 08:33 |  #36684

DTBaan wrote in post #18996918 (external link)
Thanks for your input and taking the time to dig up the pictures. the 135 looks really good!! 135@1.8 shows how much more bokeh you can get as well as the background coming more forward. I think the 135 is awesome when it comes to full body shots + space while the 85 is more focused on the model/subject. Ive been amazed with the 85 and its such a fantastic lens and focal length that I dont regret the purchase. Seems the 135 1.8 is a much better portrait lens over the 70-200 at 2.8. now let's see sony come out with their version of 200 f2 :P

I think they both have their place...and are both exceptional lenses...the 135 is probably sharper, and it is certainly faster to focus...a 200 f/2...I can't even begin to guess how much that would be...


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Jan 23, 2020 09:13 |  #36685

I was trying to decide Sony 135 or 70 /200 f2.8 and will order the 70/200 and 1.4tc then it will give me a setup for when the nephews and nieces come round to play in the garden with the a9mkII

Also for birding with the tc and a7r4 as that will give me 420mm at f4 - i Love the 200/600 but as the last light is going at f6.3 is a little slow i then have to swap to the EM1X and 300f4 I think i have enough options now :)

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Jan 23, 2020 12:52 |  #36686

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I was trying to decide Sony 135 or 70 /200 f2.8 and will order the 70/200 and 1.4tc then it will give me a setup for when the nephews and nieces come round to play in the garden with the a9mkII

Also for birding with the tc and a7r4 as that will give me 420mm at f4 - i Love the 200/600 but as the last light is going at f6.3 is a little slow i then have to swap to the EM1X and 300f4 I think i have enough options now :)

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Jan 23, 2020 13:03 |  #36687

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You think.....

I hope :) I do know iv finished with the super teles so everything is quite cheap in comparison .

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Jan 23, 2020 14:13 |  #36688

so I ran that EXIF tool on the a9 files from this weekend...it must only register mechanical shutter actuations...it came in at 14K...I know I am way more than that...the new a73 came in at 1900...and I think the 135L is playing nice with it...will have to get the rugrat out and see...


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Jan 23, 2020 15:13 |  #36689

TRhoads wrote in post #18997295 (external link)
so I ran that EXIF tool on the a9 files from this weekend...it must only register mechanical shutter actuations...it came in at 14K...I know I am way more than that...the new a73 came in at 1900...and I think the 135L is playing nice with it...will have to get the rugrat out and see...

As far as I know it only counts if mechanical shutter is used


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