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Feb 07, 2020 23:26 |  #37111

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Feb 07, 2020 23:37 |  #37112

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Long winded post warning......

This website just saved my bacon!! - https://www.cgsecurity​.org/wiki/PhotoRec (external link) (Free software by Christophe Grenier)

Basically I managed to lose ALL photos from my daughters first 6 months of life, ALL of my final edits (TIFF files) since 2011 and ALL of the images I have ever taken hillwalking!

How you might ask?

Well I am pretty anal about backup and redundancy of data. I had all my photos on a Synology NAS with two mirrored drives so if one failed it warns you and you can swap it out and the data mirrors again from the second drive. On top of that I have incremental backup from my NAS to an external drive. I just built a new Win 10 Desktop PC for editing so decided I was going to swap all my files out of the NAS and into the desktop and then setup a new backup strategy from there.

So I first copied all of my photo directories from the external backup to the new PC. Clicked into it in windows explorer and all was well (it seemed!). I then removed one of the 3TB NAS drives and installed it on the PC. I had to format it due to the file type difference between the NAS (Linux) and my desktop (NTFS). All still seemed ok so I then decided to take the second drive out the NAS and install and format it. I then started adding files onto these two drives.

It was at this moment (approximately 28 hours ago) that I realised in lightroom that 3 of my folders had question marks against them!! wtf?!?!? I thought. Had a look and to my horror the files were no longer in the photo drive. They had failed to copy over with Synologys built in "USB Copy" backup app. When I realised it was the photos from Islas birth etc I was absolutely devastated as you can imagine.

I spent the next 12-16 hours trying to recover data from the drives I had removed from the NAS. I was using the software called "getdataback" which I had used successfully in the past but it wasn't finding anything (took 6 hours for each scan pretty much to then realise no files were there!) I was all but given up then I had a thought. Maybe I need a different bit of software due to the file system used on the NAS. A bit of googling later and I realised the drives were being used in ext4 format and I was using an NTFS data recovery tool. There might be hope yet I thought! Bit more googling and I found the free software noted above.

10 hours 51 mins later and its just finished scanning the drive and copying all the files its found onto a second drive. Its all a bit of a mish mash with all the files mixed together but I have just found all the raw files of Islas first 6 months! So happy right now!:-) Im going to donate to the guys site.

So I went from 3 copies of my photos to zero due to stupidly not checking it all had copied across and for stupidly trusting Synologys app instead of just doing a manual select all, copy and paste.

In summary - Dont get caught out by making a stupid mistake like I did but if you do give this software a try if its been stored in ext4 format.

Im away to get some sleep!

Good save and I bed a huge sigh of relief.


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Feb 07, 2020 23:50 |  #37113

Eddie wrote in post #19005595 (external link)
Long winded post warning......

This website just saved my bacon!! - https://www.cgsecurity​.org/wiki/PhotoRec (external link) (Free software by Christophe Grenier)

Basically I managed to lose ALL photos from my daughters first 6 months of life, ALL of my final edits (TIFF files) since 2011 and ALL of the images I have ever taken hillwalking!

How you might ask?

Well I am pretty anal about backup and redundancy of data. I had all my photos on a Synology NAS with two mirrored drives so if one failed it warns you and you can swap it out and the data mirrors again from the second drive. On top of that I have incremental backup from my NAS to an external drive. I just built a new Win 10 Desktop PC for editing so decided I was going to swap all my files out of the NAS and into the desktop and then setup a new backup strategy from there.

So I first copied all of my photo directories from the external backup to the new PC. Clicked into it in windows explorer and all was well (it seemed!). I then removed one of the 3TB NAS drives and installed it on the PC. I had to format it due to the file type difference between the NAS (Linux) and my desktop (NTFS). All still seemed ok so I then decided to take the second drive out the NAS and install and format it. I then started adding files onto these two drives.

It was at this moment (approximately 28 hours ago) that I realised in lightroom that 3 of my folders had question marks against them!! wtf?!?!? I thought. Had a look and to my horror the files were no longer in the photo drive. They had failed to copy over with Synologys built in "USB Copy" backup app. When I realised it was the photos from Islas birth etc I was absolutely devastated as you can imagine.

I spent the next 12-16 hours trying to recover data from the drives I had removed from the NAS. I was using the software called "getdataback" which I had used successfully in the past but it wasn't finding anything (took 6 hours for each scan pretty much to then realise no files were there!) I was all but given up then I had a thought. Maybe I need a different bit of software due to the file system used on the NAS. A bit of googling later and I realised the drives were being used in ext4 format and I was using an NTFS data recovery tool. There might be hope yet I thought! Bit more googling and I found the free software noted above.

10 hours 51 mins later and its just finished scanning the drive and copying all the files its found onto a second drive. Its all a bit of a mish mash with all the files mixed together but I have just found all the raw files of Islas first 6 months! So happy right now!:-) Im going to donate to the guys site.

So I went from 3 copies of my photos to zero due to stupidly not checking it all had copied across and for stupidly trusting Synologys app instead of just doing a manual select all, copy and paste.

In summary - Dont get caught out by making a stupid mistake like I did but if you do give this software a try if its been stored in ext4 format.

Im away to get some sleep!

Pretty scary stuff. Glad to read you were able to rescue your precious family photos. I've been going over many prints and scanning negatives of my old family photos and know how important they can be to you and your family.


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Feb 08, 2020 02:41 |  #37114

Dlee13 wrote in post #19005626 (external link)
Good to hear you managed to recover your images Eddie!

You don’t have any cloud backups like OneDrive?

Hadn’t got round to that yet but think I will now. I have one drive for work so might get the personal one. I thought 3 copies was enough!


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Feb 08, 2020 02:42 |  #37115

TRhoads wrote in post #19005657 (external link)
Man...my heart rate was going up reading that...so glad you found your data...and makes me glad I still don't a very manual old fashioned way...

Manual is the safest way I think. I’m going to start using acronis now. I trust them more than synology


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Feb 08, 2020 02:42 |  #37116

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If this is the wrong place to ask this, please do point me elsewhere, but I'm wondering what card readers you guys use for the SD cards the Sony alpha cameras use? I'm coming from CF cards -- and the reader I have is pretty ancient at this point!

B&H tells me the "Sony XQD/SD Card Reader" (for $50) is a "#1 seller" -- any reason not to go with that one? Is there a better bang for the buck?

As a side note, I have some older SD cards I'm planning to keep in rotation for this a7iii, but I also plan to buy probably 2 more cards with larger capacities. Would that Sony XQD/SD reader read my "old" SD cards? lol. "Compatible with XQD & UHS-I/II SD Cards" -- sounds fancy, heh, and I don't know what my old cards are! :lol:

Please forgive my technological ineptitude ::ducks for cover:: thank you!

I’ve tried several and I have two favorites. The cheaper of the two is from Kingston that will not only read your SD cards but several others as well (including your old CF) - Amazon Link (external link)

The more expensive one is from ProGrade and will read two SD’s at a time - Amazon Link (external link)

The ProGrade seems just slightly faster, is built tougher if you’re going to be banging it around, has a magnet made into the bottom (it comes with a metal “sticker” to attach itself to if your computer if needed), and comes with USB-A to C and USB-C to C cables in the box.

The Kingston is mostly plastic (but works great), is only slightly slower, more versatile since it can read multiple cars formats, and is considerably cheaper.

I wouldn’t personally buy an XQD/SD reader if I didn’t have the need to read XQD cards, unless I thought I’d end up with a camera using that format in the near future.


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Feb 08, 2020 02:44 |  #37117

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Pretty scary stuff. Glad to read you were able to rescue your precious family photos. I've been going over many prints and scanning negatives of my old family photos and know how important they can be to you and your family.

The scare I just had has made me realise I need to print more than I currently do. Digital is fine with backups and all that but you can’t beat a box full of actual photos being passed down the family


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Feb 08, 2020 03:37 |  #37118

Eddie wrote in post #19005736 (external link)
Hadn’t got round to that yet but think I will now. I have one drive for work so might get the personal one. I thought 3 copies was enough!

3 copies is usually enough, but one of those should be stored off site like cloud storage.

I use One Drive too since Office 365 comes with 1tb free. If you get the family plan, you get 1tb storage and office for each person and it's the same price as a solo Dropbox Plan.


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Feb 08, 2020 04:18 |  #37119

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3 copies is usually enough, but one of those should be stored off site like cloud storage.

I use One Drive too since Office 365 comes with 1tb free. If you get the family plan, you get 1tb storage and office for each person and it's the same price as a solo Dropbox Plan.

3 copies should have been enough if it wasn’t for me formatting all 3 drives :D

We use onedrive at work. It’s really good. I sync my desktop and my “my docs” folder and it means that I can jump on any computer or even my phone and quickly open up files that are saved on my work laptop, really handy. I think I read they do a 2TB personal version so I need to look into that (I have between 1 and 2 TB of photo data to backup)


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Feb 08, 2020 04:29 |  #37120

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3 copies should have been enough if it wasn’t for me formatting all 3 drives :D

We use onedrive at work. It’s really good. I sync my desktop and my “my docs” folder and it means that I can jump on any computer or even my phone and quickly open up files that are saved on my work laptop, really handy. I think I read they do a 2TB personal version so I need to look into that (I have between 1 and 2 TB of photo data to backup)

haha yeah even 10 copies wouldn't help if you format them all  :p

Yeah Onedrive is really great for that, I don't think I could go without it. Compare the prices of One Drive alone vs with Office 365. I know for here in Aus, I got the Office way cheaper through corporate discounts at work.


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Feb 08, 2020 05:45 |  #37121

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haha yeah even 10 copies wouldn't help if you format them all  :p

Yeah Onedrive is really great for that, I don't think I could go without it. Compare the prices of One Drive alone vs with Office 365. I know for here in Aus, I got the Office way cheaper through corporate discounts at work.

The beauty of my works office 365/one drive deal is that I can install office 365 on my own pc too for free :)


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Feb 08, 2020 07:27 |  #37122

Dlee13 wrote in post #19005746 (external link)
3 copies is usually enough, but one of those should be stored off site like cloud storage.

I use One Drive too since Office 365 comes with 1tb free. If you get the family plan, you get 1tb storage and office for each person and it's the same price as a solo Dropbox Plan.

my off site copy is just another external hard drive that goes to my office and stays in a firebox there...I fill up somewhere between 2-4 TB a year...those cloud storage services would cost me a fortune to backup all of my images and would take an eternity to upload...


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Feb 08, 2020 08:04 |  #37123

Sunrise this past Tuesday while I was on site for work...took the time to take the camera out. Nothing super exciting, but it was still nice to get out and shoot, watch the sun come up and not work...which seems to be all I have done lately.

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Feb 08, 2020 08:47 |  #37124

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I’ve tried several and I have two favorites. The cheaper of the two is from Kingston that will not only read your SD cards but several others as well (including your old CF) - Amazon Link (external link)

The more expensive one is from ProGrade and will read two SD’s at a time - Amazon Link (external link)

The ProGrade seems just slightly faster, is built tougher if you’re going to be banging it around, has a magnet made into the bottom (it comes with a metal “sticker” to attach itself to if your computer if needed), and comes with USB-A to C and USB-C to C cables in the box.

The Kingston is mostly plastic (but works great), is only slightly slower, more versatile since it can read multiple cars formats, and is considerably cheaper.

I wouldn’t personally buy an XQD/SD reader if I didn’t have the need to read XQD cards, unless I thought I’d end up with a camera using that format in the near future.

Thank you for the input! My old card reader is a Kingston and I never had any trouble with it, so I feel good about going with them again. Much appreciate your advice - thanks again!


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Feb 08, 2020 09:00 |  #37125

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The scare I just had has made me realise I need to print more than I currently do. Digital is fine with backups and all that but you can’t beat a box full of actual photos being passed down the family

Do you plan on printing them yourself or sending the files out? I'm at the point that sending them out for printing seems like the best option to me. Of course, I haven't considered printing my family photos that I've scanned the negatives of so they are either uncropped or cropped haphazardly. I could send all the negatives in to be printed but many need some sort of restoration for color fade, dust, scratches, etc.


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