Sony Lounge Thread MKIII (All Sony cameras welcome)

Eddie wrote in post #19048708
Really like the feel of this, nice work

Thanks Eddie

TRhoads wrote in post #19048750
Episode 02 is up now! It is a little longer than Episode 01, but this one covers my Post PRoduction workflow from start to finish on a single image. So it takes a little longer. Grab a glass of your favorite drink of choice, maybe a bowl of popcorn and enjoy!

Nice one, will watch that in a couple of hours once the wee one is asleep

AlanU wrote in post #19048721
The meat inside was tenderized seasoned pork, prawns and egg as a combiner. So simple but was really delicious

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Good that your kids are helping make the dumplings. My elder one likes to help out in cooking. Wish more parents cooked and taught their children how to cook too. Food can bring families as well as strangers together. Now everyone has ample time on hand.

Eddie wrote in post #19048754
Nice one, will watch that in a couple of hours once the wee one is asleep

Good idea. Would love any feedback...I have already incorporated a lot of the stuff yall have suggested...

Hi Everyone, I have a quick question for the forum.

I have been a long time Aperture user but when Apple stop Aperture support I stopped using it as my DAM software and relied exclusively on managing my image collection within a image master folder on a separate image drive using MAC OS. I picked up a copy of Capture One Pro and I'm in the process of figuring out how I want to manage my image collection, specifically whether I should use referenced files mode or simplify the setup and import the actual RAWs into Capture One database.

The concept of imputing the RAWs directly into the Capture One database appeals to me for it's simplicity it's how I used Aperture but l would still maintain a separate hard drive with all my images stored outside of the database just to be sure.
Reference files are an attractive alternative, it would keep the database significantly smaller but the logistics of moving image files or folder worries me.

If you use Capture One I would appreciate any guidance/tips you could share in respect to which is better and also what your experience has been with the software, I know the raw converter in Capture is fantastic but I'm not sure how the DAM features compare to other asset management applications out there.

Miranda1 wrote in post #19048789
Hi Everyone, I have a quick question for the forum.

I have been a long time Aperture user but when Apple stop Aperture support I stopped using it as my DAM software and relied exclusively on managing my image collection within a image master folder on a separate image drive using MAC OS. I picked up a copy of Capture One Pro and I'm in the process of figuring out how I want to manage my image collection, specifically whether I should use referenced files mode or simplify the setup and import the actual RAWs into Capture One database.

The concept of imputing the RAWs directly into the Capture One database appeals to me for it's simplicity it's how I used Aperture but l would still maintain a separate hard drive with all my images stored outside of the database just to be sure.
Reference files are an attractive alternative, it would keep the database significantly smaller but the logistics of moving image files or folder worries me.

If you use Capture One I would appreciate any guidance/tips you could share in respect to which is better and also what your experience has been with the software, I know the raw converter in Capture is fantastic but I'm not sure how the DAM features compare to other asset management applications out there.

I am trying CaptureOne right now. Personally I would use sessions and not import my RAWs inside the C1 catalog. Actually recently I have already started creating separate catalogs in LR and keep my files more C1 like. You start with capture folder, cull them, keep your selects and output. Throw away the rest later. Makes working on multiple computers so much easier. Not to mention managing files.

Eddie wrote in post #19048640
Some photos from yesterday and today. Islas lockdown hairdo coming on strong

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2iRB​45g Isla - 17.04.20-2.jpg by Eddie, on Flickr

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2iRF​rw6 Isla - 17.04.20.jpg by Eddie, on Flickr

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2iRE​46f Callum - 18.04.20.jpg by Eddie, on Flickr

With the Tamron??????? The IQ is outstanding.

King of iridescence, the Purple-chested European Starling-

Riv+Nikkor 300PF

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2iRL​R2g

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #19048854
With the Tamron??????? The IQ is outstanding.

Yeah. I tried to sell it and accidentally listed it as the wide angle one instead of the 28-75 so decided I may as well use it again until I put it back up for sale

TRhoads wrote in post #19048771
Good idea. Would love any feedback...I have already incorporated a lot of the stuff yall have suggested...

Hey Travis, watched the video just now after the kids were in bed, really like it. I took some notes for things I wanted to ask etc

In no particular order -

The red circle when you click things - Is that a function within lightroom or is that part of the screen record software?

Texture slider - I have never seen that on lightroom before. I checked there and its there so god knows how ive missed it

"Visualise Spots" button - Never noticed that before either, ill be using that going forward

Virtual copies - Ive never thought of doing this before from a single frame but it seems so obvious now that I have seen it. Will definitely be exploring that method

Color Efex - I saw you like the slider to see before and after. Any reason you prefer that to the "compare" toggle? (I use the compare button so just curious)

Color Efex - You use similar values in Pro Contrast to me but I like your method of raising the shadows slider on landscapes

Viveza - Never used that before as didnt really understand what it was for but it looks brilliant for selective edits!

Content aware fill - This is a great method with the lasso tool and new to me so I will be using that going forward. I always use spot healing tool for those sorts of things but it doesnt work as smoothly as that did

Layer Masks - You may know this already so apologies if I am stating the obvious but I saw you used the paint bucket tool to invert the mask from white to black. Do you know you can select the mask and press Ctrl + I (Invert) ?

Key Words - I see you were manually adding lens and body key words on lightroom. Again apologies if you know this but on the library module in grid view you can click attributes at the top and search by lens and body from the exif data. Might save you some input time. Doesnt catch"waterfall" keywords and the like but might help speed things up

Hope you dont mind all the questions!!

A layer mask can also be added reversed (black) to begin with by holding the Alt key and then clicking on the layer mask button.

I haven't seen all of Travis's video yet but so far, I have enjoyed it. I don't use Lightroom so I learned a bit about it too.

navydoc wrote in post #19048970
A layer mask can also be added reversed (black) to begin with by holding the Alt key and then clicking on the layer mask button.

I haven't seen all of Travis's video yet but so far, I have enjoyed it. I don't use Lightroom so I learned a bit about it too.

Neat tip! I didn’t know that. Will need to keep that one in mind

Hey Eddie, Thanks for the watch and great notes...I am glad you got that much out of it. I am going to respond in line to your quote in red, since I don't think the forum will let me have that many quotes in one post...


"Hey Travis, watched the video just now after the kids were in bed, really like it. I took some notes for things I wanted to ask etc

In no particular order -

The red circle when you click things - Is that a function within lightroom or is that part of the screen record software?
That is the screen recording software. The feedback here was that the click sounds sucked, and I figured out how to turn that off, but still wanted the cursor to be picked up when it clicks.
Red stood out better than the other color options in the software.

Texture slider - I have never seen that on lightroom before. I checked there and its there so god knows how ive missed it
It was farily new maybe a year or so ago, I can't remember, it makes for a nice sharpening of some of the details a bit, can't go nuts with it, but I like it in small doses.

"Visualise Spots" button - Never noticed that before either, ill be using that going forward
Like I said in the video, I am so surprised to hear about how many people don't know about that one feature, but it is a really good one to use.

Virtual copies - Ive never thought of doing this before from a single frame but it seems so obvious now that I have seen it. Will definitely be exploring that method
This is how I double and triple edit RAW files all the time. So much better than any other method.

Color Efex - I saw you like the slider to see before and after. Any reason you prefer that to the "compare" toggle? (I use the compare button so just curious)
I use the compare toggle a lot too, but that slider lets you see half the image as it was and half as it is now, I like it for comparison to make sure I have not gone too far. I think it is also good for seeing how things were changed...maybe I just like sliders like that!

Color Efex - You use similar values in Pro Contrast to me but I like your method of raising the shadows slider on landscapes
I just like that look for certain images, not all...but I do like it, and that slider seems to make it very consistent, it lets me assign a numeric value to it which is good for repetition if it is a set of images.

Viveza - Never used that before as didnt really understand what it was for but it looks brilliant for selective edits!
It is also really good for more than I used it for in this edit, I often make global adjustments with it...but the control points are the real key benefit to that one for me.

Content aware fill - This is a great method with the lasso tool and new to me so I will be using that going forward. I always use spot healing tool for those sorts of things but it doesnt work as smoothly as that did
Funny story about that...I had done this edit already, clearly, I had posted it yesterday. But when I went to do the screen capture and recording, it wasn't working AT ALL...it kept making the sky look like the rocks. I had to redo and re-record that section over and over again until I figured out a work around. I am not sure why it freaked out this time, but it sure drove me nutz. It is not a perfect method, and usually needs some clean up, but for skies like that, it usually does a great job.

Layer Masks - You may know this already so apologies if I am stating the obvious but I saw you used the paint bucket tool to invert the mask from white to black. Do you know you can select the mask and press Ctrl + I (Invert) ?
I was trying to make it really easy, and, I have reprogrammed some of my quick keys, and that no longer works on my installation, and actually I have F2 assigned for "make layer mask and fill black" in one key...because I use that a lot, so I got tired of the stock quick key.

Key Words - I see you were manually adding lens and body key words on lightroom. Again apologies if you know this but on the library module in grid view you can click attributes at the top and search by lens and body from the exif data. Might save you some input time. Doesnt catch"waterfall" keywords and the like but might help speed things up
Yeah, I know lightroom keeps all the gear data pretty easy to find, but it is all the other keywords, so I am trying to make myself do it all. I also like all of that to be loaded onto anything I post to Flickr or my website and the on board doesn't always come across as keywords, it is built in EXIF data. Keywords are seen differently on the internet.

Hope you dont mind all the questions!!
I don't mind at all...love the feedback and discussion. I am glad it was a helpful episode for you! Thanks for checking it out.

Eddie wrote in post #19048946
Hey Travis, watched the video just now after the kids were in bed, really like it. I took some notes for things I wanted to ask etc

In no particular order -

The red circle when you click things - Is that a function within lightroom or is that part of the screen record software?

Texture slider - I have never seen that on lightroom before. I checked there and its there so god knows how ive missed it

"Visualise Spots" button - Never noticed that before either, ill be using that going forward

Virtual copies - Ive never thought of doing this before from a single frame but it seems so obvious now that I have seen it. Will definitely be exploring that method

Color Efex - I saw you like the slider to see before and after. Any reason you prefer that to the "compare" toggle? (I use the compare button so just curious)

Color Efex - You use similar values in Pro Contrast to me but I like your method of raising the shadows slider on landscapes

Viveza - Never used that before as didnt really understand what it was for but it looks brilliant for selective edits!

Content aware fill - This is a great method with the lasso tool and new to me so I will be using that going forward. I always use spot healing tool for those sorts of things but it doesnt work as smoothly as that did

Layer Masks - You may know this already so apologies if I am stating the obvious but I saw you used the paint bucket tool to invert the mask from white to black. Do you know you can select the mask and press Ctrl + I (Invert) ?

Key Words - I see you were manually adding lens and body key words on lightroom. Again apologies if you know this but on the library module in grid view you can click attributes at the top and search by lens and body from the exif data. Might save you some input time. Doesnt catch"waterfall" keywords and the like but might help speed things up

Hope you dont mind all the questions!!

Dan Hughes recently did several webinar's on DXO Nik . He worked from 2009 to 2014 with Google Nik . He teaches at RIT in Rochester NY

The two below will explain the difference between Vivexa and Color Effects

Viveza controls light and color ..
https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=H5AcrViWKxQ&​t=409s

Color Efex
https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=TNqlfsVT880

All his webniar's on DXO
https://www.youtube.co​m/user/NikSoftwareLess​ons

Another authority on Nik is Robin Whalley
https://www.youtube.co​m …/UCYMWL3WXU9QMe​OUhD3lOpEw

TRhoads wrote in post #19048771
Good idea. Would love any feedback...I have already incorporated a lot of the stuff yall have suggested...

You may want to take note of volume change when you go to and leaving from LR at beginning of editing and when your finished editing in LR .