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Oct 28, 2017 05:56 |  #6331

a7rII is on the sluggish side for most photography. Basically anything but landscapes, architecture , and Astro can benefit from an upgrade to the mark III.


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Oct 28, 2017 06:36 |  #6332

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Yes client files are on it. I have a nas that i usually back up on, but it takes forever and I have been staying at all sorts of random places each night lately...have been dragging my MacBook and hard drive everywhere and that's probably what caused the failure

That stinks! Since I lost a drive full of our first family vacation to San Diego in 2014, I've been using a Synology NAS and doing backups of that as well.


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Oct 28, 2017 07:39 |  #6333

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External hard drive just failed on me. Really can't wait till cloud based storage of catalogs becomes a reality...

wow that sucks dude...I have a desktop harddrive that sits on my desk, it was a pricey lacie drive, and it has started to act up...but I have everything backed up in three other places, so its not a big deal, just annoying since it was not cheap, and its less than a year old. I desperately need to figure out a better file organization system...the sheer size of each years catalog now is getting harder and harder to manage.

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I just realised that the a9 is available brand new grey market for £3100. That’s a lot lower than the £4500 release price and it’s not that old at all (what 6 months?). I wonder how much the a7riii will drop to 6 months after release? It may be hard to resist at that point if it drops significantly like the a9 has. The a7riii is £3200 on release.

(I have no issue with grey market - my a7rii is grey and so was my 5D3 before it. My x100F is also grey)

Have you considered the a9 then? If it is already less on the gray market than the new r3?

I tested out eye af with the a9 and the Sigma 50 Art last night with kids...works great. Now I see why eye AF is a good thing, never hat much luck with it on the 7r2.


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Oct 28, 2017 07:43 |  #6334

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wow that sucks dude...I have a desktop harddrive that sits on my desk, it was a pricey lacie drive, and it has started to act up...but I have everything backed up in three other places, so its not a big deal, just annoying since it was not cheap, and its less than a year old. I desperately need to figure out a better file organization system...the sheer size of each years catalog now is getting harder and harder to manage.

Have you considered the a9 then? If it is already less on the gray market than the new r3?

I tested out eye af with the a9 and the Sigma 50 Art last night with kids...works great. Now I see why eye AF is a good thing, never hat much luck with it on the 7r2.

The a9 is currently cheaper on the grey market than the new a7riii non grey. I can’t afford to have 2 high value bodies so it’s not an option for me. I have been thinking about it though and if I did shoot 2 bodies I would rather have a7rii/a9 combo than a7rii/a7riii combo (personally). But for a 1 body does all solution the a7riii on paper seems to be it. I can see myself owning one in 6 months if pricing works out. I will miss SR app though

Either that or wait for the a7riv and really feel the upgrade


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Oct 28, 2017 07:48 |  #6335

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The a9 is currently cheaper on the grey market than the new a7riii non grey. I can’t afford to have 2 high value bodies so it’s not an option for me. I have been thinking about it though and if I did shoot 2 bodies I would rather have a7rii/a9 combo than a7rii/a7riii combo (personally). But for a 1 body does all solution the a7riii on paper seems to be it. I can see myself owning one in 6 months if pricing works out. I will miss SR app though

Either that or wait for the a7riv and really feel the upgrade

losing the SR app is a deal breaker for me, I love that app. For me it is less about the LE than it is about shooting architecture and interiors...using it to shoot for the bright parts and being able to lift the rest is a really great tool that saves on editing time.


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Oct 28, 2017 07:59 |  #6336

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losing the SR app is a deal breaker for me, I love that app. For me it is less about the LE than it is about shooting architecture and interiors...using it to shoot for the bright parts and being able to lift the rest is a really great tool that saves on editing time.

It’s not so much for LE for me either , it’s for shooting at high iso at night and making it look like low iso


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Oct 28, 2017 08:31 |  #6337

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The a9 is currently cheaper on the grey market than the new a7riii non grey. I can’t afford to have 2 high value bodies so it’s not an option for me. I have been thinking about it though and if I did shoot 2 bodies I would rather have a7rii/a9 combo than a7rii/a7riii combo (personally). But for a 1 body does all solution the a7riii on paper seems to be it. I can see myself owning one in 6 months if pricing works out. I will miss SR app though

Either that or wait for the a7riv and really feel the upgrade

A9 is an awesome cam. As ludicrous as it sounds to use a $4,500 camera for family shots, its probably as good as it gets for shots of the kids. If I can't get a fair price on the a9, I'm keeping it and will stick with an a9/a7rII combo. The only reason I wouldn't keep the a9 is because like you, I don't like the feeling of owning two high cost bodies....so if I keep the a9, I'll grab the a7rIII way down the road when the prices come down.

I'm still wondering how the a7riii AF stacks up against the a9 in real world use. On paper, the a7rIII's AF system seems to have more in common with the a7rII than the a9. a9 has 693 AF points, whereas both the a7rII and a7rIII have 399, so it doesn't look like the a7rIII actually inherited the a9 AF system. Makes sense since the sensor didn't change, and with mirrorless cameras, the image sensor and AF sensor are one in the same. If the PDAF system didn't change, I wonder if the a7rIII can AF adapted glass as well as the a9.


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Oct 28, 2017 08:44 |  #6338

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A9 is an awesome cam. As ludicrous as it sounds to use a $4,500 camera for family shots, its probably as good as it gets for shots of the kids. If I can't get a fair price on the a9, I'm keeping it and will stick with an a9/a7rII combo. The only reason I wouldn't keep the a9 is because like you, I don't like the feeling of owning two high cost bodies....so if I keep the a9, I'll grab the a7rIII way down the road when the prices come down.

I'm still wondering how the a7riii AF stacks up against the a9 in real world use. On paper, the a7rIII's AF system seems to have more in common with the a7rII than the a9. a9 has 693 AF points, whereas both the a7rII and a7rIII have 399, so it doesn't look like the a7rIII actually inherited the a9 AF system. Makes sense since the sensor didn't change, and with mirrorless cameras, the image sensor and AF sensor are one in the same. If the PDAF system didn't change, I wonder if the a7rIII can AF adapted glass as well as the a9.

Very good points about the focus system. For people looking to sell the a7rii and upgrade to the a7riii for the focus capability might be better served by waiting for proper user reviews


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Oct 28, 2017 09:07 |  #6339

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Very good points about the focus system. For people looking to sell the a7rii and upgrade to the a7riii for the focus capability might be better served by waiting for proper user reviews

Yes. Looking at the specs, it looks like the CDAF system is what got a significant upgrade...so I'm wondering how much better things like AF tracking, and adapted lens performance really is, since those are PDAF driven. Also, while the AF sensitivity of the a7rII is good, it slows down a lot in low light because the sensitivity of the PDAF system can't see in the dark and its relying solely on slower CDAF to focus at that point (this is also why adapted lenses suck in low light on the a7rII, since you there is no CDAF to lean on with adapted glass). The CDAF system is 1 stop more sensitive in low light, but looking at the specs, I actually don't expect the camera to reach a9 levels in terms of speed and tracking in low light


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Oct 28, 2017 09:11 |  #6340

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I'm still wondering how the a7riii AF stacks up against the a9 in real world use. On paper, the a7rIII's AF system seems to have more in common with the a7rII than the a9. a9 has 693 AF points, whereas both the a7rII and a7rIII have 399, so it doesn't look like the a7rIII actually inherited the a9 AF system. Makes sense since the sensor didn't change, and with mirrorless cameras, the image sensor and AF sensor are one in the same. If the PDAF system didn't change, I wonder if the a7rIII can AF adapted glass as well as the a9.


I'm wondering the same thing. My reasons for upgrading are the improved ability to use adapted glass, the higher resolution EVF, faster speed..and the joystick. I'm going to wait and see what's reported before I commit.

Besides my 6 year old laptop hard drive crashed yesterday, so a new laptop is the first priority.



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I'm wondering the same thing. My reasons for upgrading are the improved ability to use adapted glass, the higher resolution EVF, faster speed..and the joystick. I'm going to wait and see what's reported before I commit.

Besides my 6 year old laptop hard drive crashed yesterday, so a new laptop is the first priority.

Yeah this is actually the first time I actually had time to look at the specs, but the urgency to upgrade just came down for me.

There's good reason to wait IMO.


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Oct 28, 2017 09:57 |  #6342

man this is the most epic hard drive failure I've ever seen. usually its an issue of a drive not being mountable, but this one doesn't show up at all....so no chance to try to repair the drive, salvage files, or even format and try to recover something after the fact.

I'm wide open to suggestions...


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Oct 28, 2017 10:02 |  #6343

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man this is the most epic hard drive failure I've ever seen. usually its an issue of a drive not being mountable, but this one doesn't show up at all....so no chance to try to repair the drive, salvage files, or even format and try to recover something after the fact.

I'm wide open to suggestions...

Have you tried the software called getdataback? I can send you it if you don’t have it. I’ve saved files from drives that the partition doesn’t show up etc. It’s for windows


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Oct 28, 2017 10:03 |  #6344

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Have you tried the software called getdataback? I can send you it if you don’t have it. I’ve saved files from drives that the partition doesn’t show up etc. It’s for windows

I'll give it a try!


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Oct 28, 2017 10:04 |  #6345

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I'll give it a try!

PM me your email address and I’ll send it over


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