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Nov 21, 2017 11:03 |  #7681

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I reworked this one that I shared a few days ago. I reduced the exposure, reworked the colors, and increased the contrast.


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I know it's probably just me but sometimes, when the vertical perspectives are corrected, it makes the buildings appear larger at the top than the bottom. I suppose I'm just not used to seeing buildings in this way and am used to viewing them where they get smaller at the top, since it is further away from my point of view.

To my eye, by tilting the image back a bit, they seem more natural to me.

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Nov 21, 2017 11:07 |  #7682

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Thanks Gene. I now realized you're right but I think you took out too much yellow. now they look nothing but magenta'ish. at least to my eyes and monitor. and yes it's calibrated.

Thanks. I should have added a warming filter as the top layer of my edit. It would have been a bit easier for me to make the adjustments to the raw file instead of the .jpg too, of course.


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Nov 21, 2017 11:17 |  #7683

navydoc wrote in post #18501125 (external link)
I know it's probably just me but sometimes, when the vertical perspectives are corrected, it makes the buildings appear larger at the top than the bottom. I suppose I'm just not used to seeing buildings in this way and am used to viewing them where they get smaller at the top, since it is further away from my point of view.

To my eye, by tilting the image back a bit, they seem more natural to me.

Super shot as always Alfredo.

Right or wrong perfect verticals are an absolute requirement for architectural photography...it’s an industry standard minimum mark of professionalism. :)


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Nov 21, 2017 11:24 |  #7684

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Right or wrong perfect verticals are an absolute requirement for architectural photography...it’s an industry standard minimum mark of professionalism. :)

I think it would depend on the distance your point of view is from the subject building. I wonder what a photo of the empire state building would look like shot from across the street and having the verticals corrected. :-)


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Nov 21, 2017 11:33 |  #7685

navydoc wrote in post #18501125 (external link)
I know it's probably just me but sometimes, when the vertical perspectives are corrected, it makes the buildings appear larger at the top than the bottom. I suppose I'm just not used to seeing buildings in this way and am used to viewing them where they get smaller at the top, since it is further away from my point of view.

To my eye, by tilting the image back a bit, they seem more natural to me.

Super shot as always Alfredo.

Thank you Gene. Yes I know what you mean. I wish I could just hover 20 ft in the air. It would make getting these shots so much easier.

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Right or wrong perfect verticals are an absolute requirement for architectural photography...it’s an industry standard minimum mark of professionalism. :)

Absolutely agree. I wish Sony had a native tilt-shift lens. I think that lens will be my next purchase.


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Nov 21, 2017 11:44 |  #7686

digital_AM wrote in post #18501143 (external link)
Thank you Gene. Yes I know what you mean. I wish I could just hover 20 ft in the air. It would make getting these shots so much easier.

Absolutely agree. I wish Sony had a native tilt-shift lens. I think that lens will be my next purchase.

tilt shift will still present the "stretched" look


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Nov 21, 2017 11:53 |  #7687

Charlie wrote in post #18501151 (external link)
tilt shift will still present the "stretched" look

Yep that’s possible.


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Nov 21, 2017 12:15 |  #7688

navydoc wrote in post #18501138 (external link)
I think it would depend on the distance your point of view is from the subject building. I wonder what a photo of the empire state building would look like shot from across the street and having the verticals corrected. :-)

Have a look at KPF’s portfolio of their super tall building portfolio: https://www.kpf.com/pr​ojects/type/supertall (external link)

KPF is a leading architectural firm designing high rises, and the photos in their portfolio represent the work of professional architectural photographers they have commissioned. I’m sure that at some point an architectural photographer faced with an extreme situation would need to relax the rule of parallel verticals, but looking at many super tall building photos I notice the problem is generally solved by (1.) shooting from distance where the corrected verticals doesn’t seem weird, or (2.) shooting from an elevated position, like a neighboring building.


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Nov 21, 2017 12:23 |  #7689

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tilt shift will still present the "stretched" look

True.

For architectural photography, tilt-shifts really offer just one major convenience over using a standard lens: being able to complete a shot’s framing/composition in-camera (instead of having to crop, stitch, or perspective-correct in post). That, though, is a considerable time-saving/error-reducing benefit, so I share Alfredo’s wish for one or two top-quality e-mount tilt-shift lenses.


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Nov 21, 2017 12:24 |  #7690

David Arbogast wrote in post #18501173 (external link)
Have a look at KPF’s portfolio of their super tall building portfolio: https://www.kpf.com/pr​ojects/type/supertall (external link)

KPF is a leading architectural firm designing high rises, and the photos in their portfolio represent the work of professional architectural photographers they have commissioned. I’m sure that at some point an architectural photographer faced with an extreme situation would need to relax the rule of parallel verticals, but looking at many super tall building photos I notice the problem is generally solved by (1.) shooting from distance where the corrected verticals doesn’t seem weird, or (2.) shooting from an elevated position, like a neighboring building.

Good points David. I typically look for an adjacent parking garage to get off street level. That's how I was able to get one of my shots of that old building. I shot it from the ground and did my usual pseudo tilt-shift blend but the results from the elevated position were more natural. If possible, I also try to move back away from the building as Gene and you mention and this helps a lot too. Forcing parallel verticals at close proximity is difficult. Using a 12mm lens helps somewhat.


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Nov 21, 2017 13:04 |  #7691

vinmunoz wrote in post #18500966 (external link)
really great work. Carlo have you tried the "Camera Portrait" on Camera Calibration in Lightroom? It looks good to me. a bit saturated but you can always tone it down.

I did not do anything on this shot on colors. It looks like their real colors. I used an expodisc on this though.
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Nov 21, 2017 13:08 |  #7692

David Arbogast wrote in post #18501173 (external link)
Have a look at KPF’s portfolio of their super tall building portfolio: https://www.kpf.com/pr​ojects/type/supertall (external link)

KPF is a leading architectural firm designing high rises, and the photos in their portfolio represent the work of professional architectural photographers they have commissioned. I’m sure that at some point an architectural photographer faced with an extreme situation would need to relax the rule of parallel verticals, but looking at many super tall building photos I notice the problem is generally solved by (1.) shooting from distance where the corrected verticals doesn’t seem weird, or (2.) shooting from an elevated position, like a neighboring building.

Exactly. I think shooting a tall building from street level and/or from too close means parallel sides no longer apply. The question then remains, what constitutes a tall enough building before one no longer needs to concern oneself about keeping the lines parallel? In my mind, it's more an aesthetic decision rather than a technical one.


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Nov 21, 2017 13:18 |  #7693

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Nov 21, 2017 13:52 |  #7694

Taken early in the morning with the Sony 16-35 GM. Perhaps an evening shot would work nicer to get more lights inside the restaurant. I'll see how it looks tonight.


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Nov 21, 2017 14:19 |  #7695

digital_AM wrote in post #18501242 (external link)
Taken early in the morning with the Sony 16-35 GM. Perhaps an evening shot would work nicer to get more lights inside the restaurant. I'll see how it looks tonight.


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A closer view showing the restaurant interior lights and maybe even people enjoying the outdoor patio might look pretty cool.


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