Sony Lounge Thread MKIII (All Sony cameras welcome)

mystik610 wrote in post #18523224
I never really thought of the rx1rII as an expensive point and shoot, but rather a really good full frame sensor, mated to a really good lens, in a really compact form factor. I guess that makes it a P&S, but there are none of the compromises in terms of IQ that usually come with a P&S and that's where the value proposition comes. I never second guess myself when I choose to leave the house with the rx1rII vs my a7rII/III. I even used it as a second body at weddings at one point....only real downside is that the battery life sucks and I had to keep swapping batteries but it worked!

I'm trying to do more casual shooting for myself and familythese days, and that's actually where the rx1rii really shines.

I think the question I'm asking myself is if I really need top notch IQ for more casual type shooting, and also since the rx1rII is not small enough to eliminate the need for some sort of carrying system (bag, strap, holster), are the size advantages really material at the end of the day? I've been experimenting with the a7rIII and FE 35 f2.8 for the past couple of days to see if this works for me or not.

This relates to why I was looking at the 35 f2.8 this week. I definitely see the value proposition of the RX1RII. I wish they would make that 35/2 available in E-Mount. Wouldn't be quite as compact, but compact enough I think. My Canon M3 with 22mm f/2 is a great compact solution, so I think I'll just stick with that. I can't stomach spending another $3200 for a fixed lens camera.

mystik610 wrote in post #18523272
The fe35 f2.8 discussions are timely as I've decided to give the lens a shot again.

I think if I were to pick out what is 'wrong' with this lens, its that it seems Sony designed this thing with absolute edge to edge sharpness in a small a package being the only consideration in the optical design. It's really sharp, but has a really clinical rendering. I don't think f2.8 is that big of a deal as casual shooting usually involves being pretty close to your subjects so you get some nice subject isolation from the subject distance....its just a really flat looking lens, and I don't get that sense when shooting other lenses at 35mm f2.8.

I wouldn't use this for 'serious' environmental portraits, but none of that is really a big deal for casual shooting and you can add whatever magic you want in post.

Outside of the rendering, I've always thought it was a really good lens for what it is. Here are a couple of the random things I'd shoot with the lens...I want to play with it a big more so more to come.

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/22HU​gxT DSC03400 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/EAEG​BW DSC03337 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

Since I always do post work on all my raw's, the rendering of this little dynamo lens suits me just fine. Whenever I have the need for less DOF, I turn to my Sigma 35 f1.4. The lens I use the least, for whatever reason, tends to be my Batis 25 f2 lens.

randy98mtu wrote in post #18523323
This relates to why I was looking at the 35 f2.8 this week. I definitely see the value proposition of the RX1RII. I wish they would make that 35/2 available in E-Mount. Wouldn't be quite as compact, but compact enough I think. My Canon M3 with 22mm f/2 is a great compact solution, so I think I'll just stick with that. I can't stomach spending another $3200 for a fixed lens camera.

Yeah. Might want to take a look at the Samyang 35 f2.8. Cheaper at msrp than the Zeiss.

A few more from Corona del Mar.

Ok back to something I have experience in. Kinda Christmasie in colors and I swear I think
the 2.0TC is sharper than the 1.4.

I noticed Riii's are in stock at B/H....any takers?

randy98mtu wrote in post #18523323
This relates to why I was looking at the 35 f2.8 this week. I definitely see the value proposition of the RX1RII. I wish they would make that 35/2 available in E-Mount. Wouldn't be quite as compact, but compact enough I think. My Canon M3 with 22mm f/2 is a great compact solution, so I think I'll just stick with that. I can't stomach spending another $3200 for a fixed lens camera.

Agreed, seems like it would be easy to port the 35/2 over and wouldn't that be a perfect compromise.

xpfloyd wrote in post #18522626
Jamie, I use the standalone versions too and haven’t subscribed to CC but I don’t have any cc software on my machine so can’t really offer any advice. If it was me I would try a complete removal and reinstall

Thanks Eddie, I did just that and now the CC code has been ripped out of machine I now have LR 6.14 Perpetual installed. It seems I had Creative Cloud “Free” installed I believe this may have happened by being assured a link Adobe supplied was LR perpetual when it wasn’t. I should have twigged what happened as CS6, Elements and Premiere were not actually hooked by CC code. Must have been tired like Travis

i love the 35 2.8
but wondering how much ill use it now that i have the 24-70 2.8

Photo from DTBaan's gallery.

Photo from DTBaan's gallery.

Photo from DTBaan's gallery.

randy98mtu wrote in post #18523323
This relates to why I was looking at the 35 f2.8 this week. I definitely see the value proposition of the RX1RII. I wish they would make that 35/2 available in E-Mount. Wouldn't be quite as compact, but compact enough I think. My Canon M3 with 22mm f/2 is a great compact solution, so I think I'll just stick with that. I can't stomach spending another $3200 for a fixed lens camera.

primary reason for the 35 f2.8 is if you absolutely cant stomach anything bigger. FE 28 f2, CV 35 f1.7, FE 50 1.8, all only slightly bigger, but big enough that they no longer fit my micro pack. The FE 35 is in the league of EOS-M + 22stm/ X-t2 + XF 18 size wise, however the FE combo can be better due to the body, and I dont have to worry about juggling 2 systems.

I'm especially fond of the CV 35 and FE 50, and primarily shoot them while in my home, but as soon as I leave, the FE 35 f2.8 takes bigger priority most of the time. When photography is expected, like birthdays or celebrations, then I'm more likely to use a larger aperture lens or set of lenses. Samyang has a 35 f2.8 you can grab for quite a bit less on the used market if price is an issue. I would have likely went that route first if it was available at the time. On the flip side, the zony 35 has stabilized in prices, so a second hand one will retain value better should you decide to sell it.

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18523366
I noticed Riii's are in stock at B/H....any takers?

I just pulled the trigger!

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18523367
Agreed, seems like it would be easy to port the 35/2 over and wouldn't that be a perfect compromise.

The Sonnar on the rx1 looks deceptively small...but when you look at the lens once its pull off the body, you can see that its longer that it appears. The rear element extends into the rx1 body by quite a bit and sits right up against the sensor. Couldn't really use that same optical design on FE mount since the flange distance would be different.

I think the FE 35 f2.8 was Sony's attempt to mimic the Sonnar in the RX1, but obviously some compromises needed to be made.

I'm interested in seeing what Sigma has in store with their FE mount 35, but they're M.O. with the Art line isn't small glass. They sort of disregard size considerations altogether and throw massive corrective elements into the mix to get the best optical quality they can.

navydoc wrote in post #18523399
I just pulled the trigger!

Interesting...when I placed my order, the camera was in stock but now, under 'my orders', it shows back ordered. I guess I didn't hit the button quick enough.

navydoc wrote in post #18523415
Interesting...when I placed my order, the camera was in stock but now, under 'my orders', it shows back ordered. I guess I didn't hit the button quick enough.

Ah that sucks Gene!

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18523364
Ok back to something I have experience in. Kinda Christmasie in colors and I swear I think
the 2.0TC is sharper than the 1.4.

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Tis the season! Nice shot

Interesting that you think the f2.0tc is sharper than the 1.4 I was not impressed with the 1.4 at all.