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Dec 25, 2017 07:13 |  #9376

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Can anyone give me a good short comment on how the a7r3 high iso raw file cleans up when downsampled to 24MP?

looking at 3 areas
1) Noise patterns - the grain and chroma characteristics - do they clean up well?
2) the color reproduction of the raw file - is it accurate or do you see any color shifting at such extreme isos? (talking about 25600 and 51200 isos - downsampling has no effect here but ii wanted to know if there are bad color voodoo happening)
3) much harder to do this last one but how comparable are the images to the a7s/a7s2 in terms of color reproduction and noise characteristics

most of the a7r2 versus a7s2 comparisons say that the images are comparable up to 12800 (there was a B&H video saying same up to 51200) but those look at the grain appearance and not really on other characteristics like color and gradation of light and dark

im really ready to jump on the a7r3 but not ready to give up the high iso advantage i have with the original a7s. If i can get almost the same quality when i downsample to a7s size then i dont need to bring 2 cameras when i go out. quality meaning not only the appearance of noise but also the overall image produced which includes color, saturation and the transitions of the light and dark parts of the image

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I haven't shot with the a7s/s2, but I've always been really impressed with the high ISO color fidelity of the 42mp sony sensor. Of course there's noise as you push the ISO, but it cleans up well. The biggest thing you notice at high ISO is the drop off in DR...so basically you have to make sure you nail the exposure in the camera since you have less head-room in post. But when I get the exposure correct, the files look great.

really old shot, but here is the a7rII at ISO10,000

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12,800:

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25,600:

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Dec 25, 2017 07:31 |  #9377

Merry Christmas Ya'll!

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Dec 25, 2017 07:52 |  #9378

Merry Christmas everyone from me too...

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Dec 25, 2017 10:00 |  #9379

Merry Christmas everyone!

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Dec 25, 2017 11:20 |  #9380

mystik610 wrote in post #18525848 (external link)
I haven't shot with the a7s/s2, but I've always been really impressed with the high ISO color fidelity of the 42mp sony sensor. Of course there's noise as you push the ISO, but it cleans up well. The biggest thing you notice at high ISO is the drop off in DR...so basically you have to make sure you nail the exposure in the camera since you have less head-room in post. But when I get the exposure correct, the files look great.

really old shot, but here is the a7rII at ISO10,000

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/yagv​Zq  (external link) _DSC8236 (external link) by Carlo Alcala (external link), on Flickr

12,800:

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25,600:

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thank you so much!!!!! wonderful examples!!

Now 1 more question hehe.

Multitude of bags out there and i am getting dizzy trying to figure out what will work and wont

Any ideas on which bag can fit the following (staying away from backpacks though)

1 a7r3 with a 16-35 f4
1 more a7r3 with a 28 f2
fe 85 f1.8
zeiss 551.8

thanks again for the help


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Dec 25, 2017 12:08 |  #9381

vinmunoz wrote in post #18525547 (external link)
Awesome vid


Awesome!
That first model, what a trooper!!


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Dec 25, 2017 13:47 |  #9382

Hope you've all had a great Christmas 8-)


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Dec 25, 2017 18:56 |  #9383

While letting my Christmas dinner digest, I decided to take a photo of an old wine decanter I have. Lighting on this shot is pretty obvious I think. :-)

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Dec 25, 2017 21:07 |  #9384

vinmunoz wrote in post #18525547 (external link)
Awesome vid

Cool video but nothing any other good lights couldn’t do.

Wouldn’t exactly call that huge umbrella like modifier portable. :lol:




  
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Dec 25, 2017 23:54 |  #9385

Maybe the a9 is the Sony A7s with more mpx's that many wanted?
I'm recalling when some A7s owners said they wanted the A7sii to have more
megapixels. The a9 is certainly competent at higher ISOs.


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Dec 26, 2017 01:36 |  #9386

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Dec 26, 2017 13:13 |  #9387

Medicine Man, or anyone else with this set up. The question is how well does the A7RIII work/perform with the Sony 1.4 & 2X TC & the Sony 100-400


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Dec 26, 2017 13:31 |  #9388

navydoc wrote in post #18526142 (external link)
While letting my Christmas dinner digest, I decided to take a photo of an old wine decanter I have. Lighting on this shot is pretty obvious I think. :-)
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that's great Gene. you got a shot of the subject and the pull out in one image. very well done :P

still looks clean to me. looked really good on the the thumbnail picture on flickr. didnt notice they were lights till you brought it up heh. i think if you blur/blend the middle light it would look superb.




  
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Dec 26, 2017 13:48 as a reply to  @ navydoc's post |  #9389

I really love the shot of this interesting vessel, Gene!


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Dec 26, 2017 13:49 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #9390

Nice work with the A7Rii!


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