Sony Lounge Thread MKIII (All Sony cameras welcome)

rantercsr wrote in post #18549744
i have a couple of portrait sessions tomorrow. . will be the first with the sony..
don't have any native lenses that i think are appropriate .. so will be using canon glass 35 1.4 and 85 1.8
I've been spending some time playing with colors in LR and PS .. trying to get more pleasing skin tones ,
Dustin Abot just released this video right on time for me..

well, i don't know that he solved my issues , but maybe a nudge in the right direction

your first step is custom white balance. get one of those expodisc. it's close to real color IMO.

rantercsr wrote in post #18549744
i have a couple of portrait sessions tomorrow. . will be the first with the sony..
don't have any native lenses that i think are appropriate .. so will be using canon glass 35 1.4 and 85 1.8
I've been spending some time playing with colors in LR and PS .. trying to get more pleasing skin tones ,
Dustin Abot just released this video right on time for me..

well, i don't know that he solved my issues , but maybe a nudge in the right direction

Hehe I found it odd that he had such mental blocks about using capture one, but went through the trouble of messing with custom profiles. I find it odd in general that people are willing to use a new camera, but have such hard times changing their processing techniques to accommodate the differences between systems.

When it comes to skin tones, I'm not a fan of custom profiles because they're a one size fits all solution that isn't broadly applicable to different types of lighting.

At any rate, in capture 1 there is a skin tone editor in the color editor tool. If the SOOC skin tones are taking on a green tingle, simply adjust the hue of the skin tones. The a7rIII's colors generally pretty good SOOC, but for this particular shot the greens and yellows elsewhere in the frame jacked up the tint using AWB so I had to adjust aggressively.

vinmunoz wrote in post #18549780
your first step is custom white balance. get one of those expodisc. it's close to real color IMO.

That too. The thing I like about the expodisk is that it gets the tint right too...not just temperature. Where AWB tends to screw up is tint.

digital_AM wrote in post #18549763
It sure does. Nick Page reviewed it and bout one. He said the range is very limited so it’s geared more towards video than stills. Have you seen the Phantom Pro 4 Obsidian? Wow!

No hadn’t seen the obsidian. Sounds cool! DJI really cranks out the product; hard to keep track of it. I also had watched Nick’s review today. Really like him a lot.

vinmunoz wrote in post #18549780
your first step is custom white balance. get one of those expodisc. it's close to real color IMO.

yes got one ..
and a xrite passport color thing (what ever its called)

so i'm hoping between the two i get a good base to work with..

question with the expodisc.. should i do it with each lens i use ? or just once for that specific location/lighting?

once lighting is change only.

edit: if you're using the expodisc, you don't need the xrite colorchecker passport.

you can even use the expodisc getting the right exposure.

mystik610 wrote in post #18549789
Hehe I found it odd that he had such mental blocks about using capture one, but went through the trouble of messing with custom profiles. I find it odd in general that people are willing to use a new camera, but have such hard times changing their processing techniques to accommodate the differences between systems.

When it comes to skin tones, I'm not a fan of custom profiles because they're a one size fits all solution that isn't broadly applicable to different types of lighting.

At any rate, in capture 1 there is a skin tone editor in the color editor tool. If the SOOC skin tones are taking on a green tingle, simply adjust the hue of the skin tones. The a7rIII's colors generally pretty good SOOC, but for this particular shot the greens and yellows elsewhere in the frame jacked up the tint using AWB so I had to adjust aggressively.

how does C1 know what is skin? FM? Really curious...and would like to learn, your skin tones are the most on point repeatedly lately...

TRhoads wrote in post #18549819
how does C1 know what is skin? FM? Really curious...and would like to learn, your skin tones are the most on point repeatedly lately...

There's an eye dropper tool that you use to select the skin tones.

xpfloyd wrote in post #18549506
Couldn’t agree more

Kinda hard for me to see it any other way...glad I am not alone in my view of it.

digital_AM wrote in post #18549507
Wholeheartedly agree with you Travis. It's downright shameful to steal other people's work and claim it as your own.

I think it is really a problem for anyone to steal someone else's work...but for a photographer to do it...its just so much more indicative of deeper problems...if you feel like you need to pass others work off as yours for attention...just makes me sick.

mystik610 wrote in post #18549665
If you're running a photography business, no photos used in any marketing materials should be shot by anyone other yourself, as any photo you use indirectly represents you and the product you deliver.

B is straight up theft.

On another note....how would you guys feel about people who will take your final edits, and then do additional stuff in post to them? At times tacky stuff that you wouldn't put your name on, but they're posted on social media that way with you tagged on them

I agree 100%...

now...to your Situation C...funny you mention it...that actually came up today in this other discussion group oddly enough...I guess you can't control it if you give them the files...but if you see it and they have named you, or tagged you or given photo credit...that could lead to bad publicity, and I would probably ask them to not mention me with it if they modified it more than a crop to make it fit.

Here's a question for the A9 shooter who also has an Ar7II or III. Granted the 9 has less MP, but can it retrieve as much DR as the II or III does ?

Bianchi wrote in post #18549870
Here's a question for the A9 shooter who also has an Ar7II or III. Granted the 9 has less MP, but can it retrieve as much DR as the II or III does ?

No it can't. The difference will only matter in extremely contrast light, but I've managed to hit the threshold of the DR on the a9 shooting things that the a7rII/III could have handled fine. For 95% of your shots the DR difference is negligible. I think the resolution matters more

TRhoads wrote in post #18549827
now...to your Situation C...funny you mention it...that actually came up today in this other discussion group oddly enough...I guess you can't control it if you give them the files...but if you see it and they have named you, or tagged you or given photo credit...that could lead to bad publicity, and I would probably ask them to not mention me with it if they modified it more than a crop to make it fit.

I did some formal wedding portraits at the end of last year, bride filtered the files like crazy........

thank goodness the large print came out exactly as I processed. Many other prints stayed filtered and still printed rather large, but I'm glad the main one was untouched.

got some further requests, but I honestly dont want to do portrait work.

David Arbogast wrote in post #18549793
No hadn’t seen the obsidian. Sounds cool! DJI really cranks out the product; hard to keep track of it. I also had watched Nick’s review today. Really like him a lot.

DJI is on a roll and I'm with you. I can't keep up with all their products. I didn't know about the Obsidian until recently. I listen to Nick's landscape podcast weekly and heard it mentioned there.

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mystik610 wrote in post #18549665
On another note....how would you guys feel about people who will take your final edits, and then do additional stuff in post to them? At times tacky stuff that you wouldn't put your name on, but they're posted on social media that way with you tagged on them

TRhoads wrote in post #18549827
now...to your Situation C...funny you mention it...that actually came up today in this other discussion group oddly enough...I guess you can't control it if you give them the files...but if you see it and they have named you, or tagged you or given photo credit...that could lead to bad publicity, and I would probably ask them to not mention me with it if they modified it more than a crop to make it fit.

That's happened to me a few times on Instagram whenever I get featured. I've told the hub not to re-edit my images. It's so annoying!

No. But it's still a Sony sensor and beyond the 1DXii I shot for almost two years, way beyond the 7dii I shot
with for even longer. Of course the 5Dsr (had it a year) is not even in the running (my RX10iv has as much DR
as it does). 20fps forces a compromise and a hit to DR was part of that (I could never explain how or why).