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Feb 26, 2018 21:20 |  #12451

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What is s-log? Is that a video thing? I don't shoot video so that stuff always baffles me.

I'll flip through some camera specs and think "Hmmm, looks pretty nice." And some video guys will post "Ugh, this thing can't even shoot 4k using 6k on 87% of the sensor when the flux capacitor is full, at less than 88 mph. Worthless." or something like that.

I'm like "It shoots video?"

The slog thing means PP in general...

In layman's terms, I can post process the video IN CAMERA, sort of like cooking jpegs. But the picture profiles options are extensive!!! I can get pretty darn usable videos SOOC, not need to PP unless I have to chop them up.


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Feb 26, 2018 21:21 |  #12452

So they announce the A7RIII 6 days after I purchase the A9, and now the A7III is announced. [Sigh]
Maybe I could sell the A9 and pick up a A7RIII for landscapes, and a A7III for Sports and wildlife? LOL


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Feb 26, 2018 21:23 |  #12453

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So aside from the Sony madness today, I got a job offer in Florida today. I'm turning it down tomorrow because we have another baby on the way :eek:

Congrats!! Florida huh. So close to Disney!


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Feb 26, 2018 21:28 as a reply to  @ alfredomora's post |  #12454

True that. I grew up 60 miles south of Orlando. Kids love Disney and the yearly pass would be primo for those with a clutch of kids.


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Feb 26, 2018 21:30 |  #12455

I wonder if a new a7000 will have the larger battery and two card slots? That would make it an ideal companion for my a7r3. My a6500 is a great 2nd camera along with the a7r3 but alas, they don't share batteries.


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Feb 26, 2018 21:47 |  #12456

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Haha! Carlo I feel like the odd man out still loving the a9 :)
Looking forward to Eriets feelings about the matter.


Im fine with the 9

I was the idiot who did the 6300 and 5.5 months later had to do the 6500. In the end I lost several hundred dollars on the switch out.

Sold the 6500 to get the A9. I am not going to look back It was what Sept of last year. then the R3 and people said A9 was worthless. Now A7v3 and same thing.

I think the A9 is a different beast and when the v3 gets in peoples hands we will see. Sensors are different, Ergonomics different.

I have always thought Sony has a Samsung approach to cameras.... release release release..... competition comes out and attack with a new product.

The 7R3 was a direct release to be closer to the Nikon 850? I think this 7v3 is a step vs fuji and new canon. Im sticking with the 7r2 until a new max pixel sensor is released.

I think by the end of the year or early next we will still see a A9R with a 50mpx sensor and DR even better.

Rambling on here..... When I jumped to the A9 I knew i would lose but I love it. I know it is going to be in my bag for quite a while. The slog means nothing to me I guess i am upset about the mechanical shutter and contrast points but hey I HAVE AN EXTRA DIAL SO HA!!!!!!


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Feb 26, 2018 22:54 |  #12457

I just bought an A9 and the new releases don't bother me in the least. I had always wanted a 1DX, but never took that step, but after using my RX10IV, I wanted that auto-focus on a full frame. Expensive, sure, but whats done is done, and I am not going to wring my hands over whatever else comes out every week. I am having too much fun actually using it.

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Feb 26, 2018 23:22 as a reply to  @ navydoc's post |  #12458

Gene lets hope.
I've love samie battery for all three bodies.
Joystick never hurts.
Central located EVF would be a happy departure as far as I'm concerned.
Dual slots yes!
As little landscaping as I do all I really need is the crop sensor. Who knows, when the
a7000 comes out I might ditch all the others.


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Feb 26, 2018 23:25 |  #12459

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Im fine with the 9

I was the idiot who did the 6300 and 5.5 months later had to do the 6500. In the end I lost several hundred dollars on the switch out.

Sold the 6500 to get the A9. I am not going to look back It was what Sept of last year. then the R3 and people said A9 was worthless. Now A7v3 and same thing.

I think the A9 is a different beast and when the v3 gets in peoples hands we will see. Sensors are different, Ergonomics different.

I have always thought Sony has a Samsung approach to cameras.... release release release..... competition comes out and attack with a new product.

The 7R3 was a direct release to be closer to the Nikon 850? I think this 7v3 is a step vs fuji and new canon. Im sticking with the 7r2 until a new max pixel sensor is released.

I think by the end of the year or early next we will still see a A9R with a 50mpx sensor and DR even better.

Rambling on here..... When I jumped to the A9 I knew i would lose but I love it. I know it is going to be in my bag for quite a while. The slog means nothing to me I guess i am upset about the mechanical shutter and contrast points but hey I HAVE AN EXTRA DIAL SO HA!!!!!!

'I knew I would lose'. Hehe, isn't it true that photography is a financial black hole! I'm sure I'm in the tens of thousands lost going bull blown Canon and now full blown Sony but I doubt anyone will care 100 years from now.


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Feb 26, 2018 23:30 |  #12460

I feel the same way using the R3. Too much fun using it for the regrets. The A7m3 is a fantastic value for sure, great times ahead

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Feb 26, 2018 23:33 |  #12461

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I have always thought Sony has a Samsung approach to cameras.... release release release..... competition comes out and attack with a new product.

And Samsung came out with one of the most innovative APS-C mirrorless cameras ever, and then suddenly died. Lets hope Sony stays afloat a little bit longer.


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Feb 26, 2018 23:39 |  #12462

OK now the tizzy is over with the A73 release any clues/hints on Sony lenses
for our mounts?
I was also hoping to hear something about the 200-600.


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Feb 26, 2018 23:52 |  #12463

I know most are begging for a range of new telephotos, but I would also really like to see a 24mm 1.4 GM. That could be an amazing lens imo. I always wanted to have the 24L II or the Nikon 24 G...just love the bokeh of close subjects with the wide-angle.


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Feb 27, 2018 00:02 |  #12464

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Feb 27, 2018 00:04 |  #12465

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While I'm glad for future A7III users, seeing this is pretty frustrating to me. That nine months ago I spent over twice this on a camera body that is basically the same minus some pixels in the EVF and back screen.

Of course I know there is more than that, but on paper let's look at our $2500 difference

More EVF and Monitor pixels for the a9.

20fps vs. 10 fps (but if the 10fps is mechanical on the a7iii it has an advantage over the a9)

no blackout on the a9

Extra settings knobs on the a9

Hopefully better AF on the a9, but the a7iii has the same amount of phase detection points and far more contrast points than the a9. Basically the a7iii appears to have the a9 and a7Riii AF systems combined (only accounting for points).

Stacked sensor vs. BSI sensor. Who knows if this will make a difference in real world shooting.

Are those things above worth $2500? Because those are the only differences that I can tell.

You do get advantages over the a9 while saving $2500.

a7iii 425 contrast detection points vs. a9 25

S-Log vs. No S-Log on a9

Pixel shift mode vs. none on a9


People complain about Canon removing features to protect the flagship, and they certainly are guilty of that. They remove TOO MANY features, but you have to protect your flagship somehow. Sony has basically released three cameras in a nine month period (I know the a7iii isn't out yet) ranging from $2000-$4500 that have minimal real world differences. The biggest difference is going to be the 42MP sensor on the A7Riii.

It honestly makes me feel like I wasted a ton of money on the a9. Feels like Sony is not rewarding those who bought their "first of it's kind" flagship, but it feels more like they're laughing at our stupidity. Like they're saying, "could've waited 9 months and basically gotten the a9 for over half off. oh well, thanks for your money.
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but, but, but, at least Sony is innovating... If this is going to be the norm for Sony putting new models out frequently, I think one has to go into buying Sony knowing and excepting this. Frustrating from a monetary point, but excited that they continue to do that.

On the other hand many Canon users are not happy about the fact that they are not innovating at the same rate as there competitors. However there investment is a little more secure.

Where's the happy medium?

Its just a different time presently than it was in the digital world .. Will there ever be a plateau, technology keeps evolving. Just depends how the different manufactures play the game.


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