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Feb 27, 2018 00:06 |  #12466

Charlie wrote in post #18573096 (external link)
maybe....

there are some minor details not stated here.

The A7m2 had a bit slower AF than the A7Rm2, and the A7m3 being only 2x faster, not sure that it'll be as fast as the A7Rm3. It could be subtle, I'm not sure.

Better AF coverage, I am dissapointed in the R3 now :-P (I kid)

On paper, it seems stupidly similar to the R3 minus megapixels

Good move on sony, Touch screen, Joystick, Z, dual cards, 693 AF points look like they will be standard going forward.


I was gonna say the reports say mini a9 but it looks like an a7r3 minus only the pixels

am I wrong?


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Feb 27, 2018 00:16 |  #12467

^ I agree with you pre.


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Feb 27, 2018 00:23 |  #12468

I re-developed this(old shot) with the RP3 technique.


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Feb 27, 2018 00:32 |  #12469

It’s not critical to call the a7III a baby a9 or a baby a7R III. In my opinion it’s a 5D IV/6D II killer. A Nikon D750 destroyer.

Do not adjust your screen...this is the real life and not just a fantasy: an ‘entry-level’ FF camera that only costs $1999 USD yet has two card slots, 10 fps in silent or mechanical, a bazillian AF points/93% VF coverage, crazy-good eye-AF, superb high ISO, minimum 710 shots per battery, BSI sensor with 5-axis IBIS, 15 stops DR. Try to get close to all that (including the price) from any other camera mfr. My guess is that this will prove to be a much more momentous release for Sony than the a7R III or a9 was.

I don’t recall being this enthused by a camera release since the Nikon D800 (which was cool way back in 2012 for having a 36MP sensor. It also turned out to have the crappiest LV screen I have ever seen).


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Feb 27, 2018 00:36 |  #12470

Kai on A7III


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Feb 27, 2018 00:41 |  #12471

vinmunoz wrote in post #18573295 (external link)
Kai on A7III

I just posted this video on the previous page. ;)


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Feb 27, 2018 00:44 |  #12472

oppppss.


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Feb 27, 2018 00:47 |  #12473

ccp900 wrote in post #18573284 (external link)
I was gonna say the reports say mini a9 but it looks like an a7r3 minus only the pixels

am I wrong?

Yes, You're wrong. And you're right. It is both.

a9 - 693 phase detection points. Same in the a7iii. More than the A7Riii

a7Riii - 425 contrast detection points. Same in the a7iii. More than the a9.

a9 - 93% sensor coverage for AF. Same in the a7iii. More than the a7Riii

All three have the same battery. All three have the same card slots. From what I can tell the Riii and iii bodies are identical.

A7Riii - 10 fps. Same in the a7iii. Less than the a9

a9 - 24.2 MP sensor. Same MP as a7iii but a9 is a stacked sensor while a7iii is BSI. Less than the A7Riii

A7Riii - 15 stops DR. Same as a7iii. More than the a9.

All three have USB - C but only a9 has an Ethernet port.

Both the EVF and back monitor are significantly worse on the a7iii than either the a7Riii or a9.

All three have 5 Axis steady shot.


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Feb 27, 2018 00:51 |  #12474

ccp900 wrote in post #18573284 (external link)
I was gonna say the reports say mini a9 but it looks like an a7r3 minus only the pixels

am I wrong?

The a7m3 is a more rounded camera. 10fps for strobe shooters is a very valuable asset.

Picture profiles is borderline essential for me these days, I can post process in camera for video, much valued feature once you dig into it.

While I would LOVE the blackout free, faster readout, and better AF, the A7m3’s AF will probably be good enough. I expect it a little faster than the R2’s AF however, operationally a lot faster, and a tad slower AF than the R3.

The pricing of the A7m3 will likely have a lot of folks turning their heads. Basically near the price of some high end aps-c and low end FF, and likely to out perform most of them, some by a wide margin.


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Feb 27, 2018 00:51 |  #12475

David Arbogast wrote in post #18573293 (external link)
It’s not critical to call the a7III a baby a9 or a baby a7R III. In my opinion it’s a 5D IV/6D II killer. A Nikon D750 destroyer.

Do not adjust your screen...this is the real life and not just a fantasy: an ‘entry-level’ FF camera that only costs $1999 USD yet has two card slots, 10 fps in silent or mechanical, a bazillian AF points/93% VF coverage, crazy-good eye-AF, superb high ISO, minimum 710 shots per battery, BSI sensor with 5-axis IBIS, 15 stops DR. Try to get close to all that (including the price) from any other camera mfr. My guess is that this will prove to be a much more momentous release for Sony than the a7R III or a9 was.

I don’t recall being this enthused by a camera release since the Nikon D800 (which was cool way back in 2012 for having a 36MP sensor. It also turned out to have the crappiest LV screen I have ever seen).

Are you saying the 6D Mark II didn't quite live up to this standard?

But Sony is super smart with this release. They're not only going to get seasoned photographers, but they'll get amateurs trying to get a piece of the full frame and mirrorless markets. These sweet specs for $2K will bring them in, only to then completely crush their wallets with G-Master glass that is so ridiculously overpriced compared to it's Canon competitors, that they'll be selling organs on the black market in no time.


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Feb 27, 2018 00:54 |  #12476

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So aside from the Sony madness today, I got a job offer in Florida today. I'm turning it down tomorrow because we have another baby on the way :eek:

Wowser! Congrats Carlo


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Feb 27, 2018 00:54 |  #12477

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I've been under the radar for a while...... I've got another one due july, congrats :-P

And you too charlie!!


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Feb 27, 2018 00:56 |  #12478

Jarvis Creative Studios wrote in post #18573306 (external link)
Are you saying the 6D Mark II didn't quite live up to this standard?

I’m saying if someone is looking to get their first full-frame camera they’d be crazy to get any Canon or Nikon over a Sony a7 III. :p


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Feb 27, 2018 00:57 |  #12479

Charlie wrote in post #18573305 (external link)
The a7m3 is a more rounded camera. 10fps for strobe shooters is a very valuable asset.

Picture profiles is borderline essential for me these days, I can post process in camera for video, much valued feature once you dig into it.

While I would LOVE the blackout free, faster readout, and better AF, the A7m3’s AF will probably be good enough. I expect it a little faster than the R2’s AF however, operationally a lot faster, and a tad slower AF than the R3.

The pricing of the A7m3 will likely have a lot of folks turning their heads. Basically near the price of some high end aps-c and low end FF, and likely to out perform most of them, some by a wide margin.

The R3 is not like the R2. It doesn't get bogged down in the menus or doing simple tasks like the R2 did. Operationally (menus, etc.) the R3 is not different from the a9.


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Feb 27, 2018 01:00 |  #12480

Took me a bit to catch up with all the a73 chat there but I must say I am impressed. Might just be the second body I’ve been after. Would be keeping my 7r2 for landscapes/megapixels/​smooth reflections


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