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Mar 18, 2018 01:33 |  #13936

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Thanks! I think the last one is my favorite too.

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Mar 18, 2018 04:41 |  #13937

MM and other birders. 1 short question. when you shoot BIF with your Sony gear, do you use lock on af (either spot or wide) or do you use the old technique of using a single af point and continously keep that point on the subject following its movement?

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Mar 18, 2018 10:13 |  #13938

With my little experience with birds, AF-C/Wide works. but that's a closer distance. i don't know with long lenses and far subject if it works.


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Mar 18, 2018 10:18 |  #13939

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With my little experience with birds, AF-C/Wide works. but that's a closer distance. i don't know with long lenses and far subject if it works.

Thanks pre. so you use locked on af wide


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ccp900 wrote in post #18588343 (external link)
MM and other birders. 1 short question. when you shoot BIF with your Sony gear, do you use lock on af (either spot or wide) or do you use the old technique of using a single af point and continously keep that point on the subject following its movement?

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I watched Mark Galer, I think I remember that he likes the Lock on a lot. Me I'm mixed/depending on conditions. With the a9's no blackout it is easy to keep a smaller number of AF points on the target.
I cannot keep even center focus area on a birds head when they are flying---that is my reality but I've learned even with the 7Dii (10fps) that if I can keep it close and have a decent aperture chances are
I might get one with eye(s) sharp. 20fps from a9 just improves my odds.

Remember I post good and bad here so we can all learn. Here's one from yesterday that just doesn't quite make the cut for my satisfaction, but it does show how the a9 can deal with a crap background. I'd seen the hawk go down from
a distance, I ran (ok, walked as fast as I could in that direction), next thing I know he is flying back up and very much in my direction.
When I saw him coming my way my thumb started holding the AF-ON which I have mapped/Register Custom Hold=1/1600, Highlight metering, F8 (which usually bumps up to F11 with the zoom and TC), AF-C Zone,Auto-ISO, etc but NOT lock-on.

Maybe I'm always shooting in bramble (unless on a Florida trip) and lock-on does fine with a clear sky? My method most resembles what I did in the Canon world (to me). I think say with a surfer lock on would do fine or an Egret against a blue sky.
Like I say not the greatest but I had 1/2 second to get on him and got 5 shots between him going from one bramble to another and then over the trees.

ALSO ccp, I am NOT a birder. I'm a wannabe photographer.
In Panama last year we screwed up royally and went on a 'birding' trip...one day the guide sees a Kestral 50 yards away in crap light on a crap perch; they stop the van, he sets up the scope, they all take turns looking through it, then they check off their little box on the species list. Next day we pass another Kestrel with a snake in its mouth, perfect perch, perfect morning light and 20 feet away---I asked if they are going to stop, 'no, we got the Kestrel yesterday' aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr​gggggggg. Never go on a birding trip!

Forgot to mention this too. This image also shows the weakness of the a9 and that is cropability. The bierd was kinda distant and I think just barely makes usable in the crop with resolution; any more and it wouldn't have been usable at all. The A7Riii would have given me the world for cropping but I'd gotten 1 image at best with it and maybe not that.


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Mar 18, 2018 10:44 |  #13941

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18588481 (external link)
I watched Mark Galer, I think I remember that he likes the Lock on a lot. Me I'm mixed/depending on conditions. With the a9's no blackout it is easy to keep a smaller number of AF points on the target.
I cannot keep even center focus area on a birds head when they are flying---that is my reality but I've learned even with the 7Dii (10fps) that if I can keep it close and have a decent aperture chances are
I might get one with eye(s) sharp. 20fps from a9 just improves my odds.

Remember I post good and bad here so we can all learn. Here's one from yesterday that just doesn't quite make the cut for my satisfaction, but it does show how the a9 can deal with a crap background. I'd seen the hawk go down from
a distance, I ran (ok, walked as fast as I could in that direction), next thing I know he is flying back up and very much in my direction.
When I saw him coming my way my thumb started holding the AF-ON which I have mapped/Register Custom Hold=1/1600, Highlight metering, F8 (which usually bumps up to F11 with the zoom and TC), AF-C Zone,Auto-ISO, etc but NOT lock-on.

Maybe I'm always shooting in bramble (unless on a Florida trip) and lock-on does fine with a clear sky? My method most resembles what I did in the Canon world (to me). I think say with a surfer lock on would do fine or an Egret against a blue sky.
Like I say not the greatest but I had 1/2 second to get on him and got 5 shots between him going from one bramble to another and then over the trees.

ALSO ccp, I am NOT a birder. I'm a wannabe photographer.
In Panama last year we screwed up royally and went on a 'birding' trip...one day the guide sees a Kestral 50 yards away in crap light on a crap perch; they stop the van, he sets up the scope, they all take turns looking through it, then they check off their little box on the species list. Next day we pass another Kestrel with a snake in its mouth, perfect perch, perfect morning light and 20 feet away---I asked if they are going to stop, 'no, we got the Kestrel yesterday' aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr​gggggggg. Never go on a birding trip!

Forgot to mention this too. This image also shows the weakness of the a9 and that is cropability. The bierd was kinda distant and I think just barely makes usable in the crop with resolution; any more and it wouldn't have been usable at all. The A7Riii would have given me the world for cropping but I'd gotten 1 image at best with it and maybe not that.
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Mar 18, 2018 10:57 |  #13942

idsurfer wrote in post #18588494 (external link)
That's crazy!!

Crazy bad, I know. Just not quite there. Compare with this one. Of course the difference between the light here in the Appalachians compared to central Florida has a lot to do with it too. And the FE100400 with TC screams for all the light it can get.
Now if this zoom can take a 2.0TC, can you imagine what the 400/2.8 will be like? Too bad I'm not 18 and super wealthy :)


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Mar 18, 2018 11:14 |  #13943

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18588481 (external link)
I watched Mark Galer, I think I remember that he likes the Lock on a lot. Me I'm mixed/depending on conditions. With the a9's no blackout it is easy to keep a smaller number of AF points on the target.
I cannot keep even center focus area on a birds head when they are flying---that is my reality but I've learned even with the 7Dii (10fps) that if I can keep it close and have a decent aperture chances are
I might get one with eye(s) sharp. 20fps from a9 just improves my odds.

Remember I post good and bad here so we can all learn. Here's one from yesterday that just doesn't quite make the cut for my satisfaction, but it does show how the a9 can deal with a crap background. I'd seen the hawk go down from
a distance, I ran (ok, walked as fast as I could in that direction), next thing I know he is flying back up and very much in my direction.
When I saw him coming my way my thumb started holding the AF-ON which I have mapped/Register Custom Hold=1/1600, Highlight metering, F8 (which usually bumps up to F11 with the zoom and TC), AF-C Zone,Auto-ISO, etc but NOT lock-on.

Maybe I'm always shooting in bramble (unless on a Florida trip) and lock-on does fine with a clear sky? My method most resembles what I did in the Canon world (to me). I think say with a surfer lock on would do fine or an Egret against a blue sky.
Like I say not the greatest but I had 1/2 second to get on him and got 5 shots between him going from one bramble to another and then over the trees.

ALSO ccp, I am NOT a birder. I'm a wannabe photographer.
In Panama last year we screwed up royally and went on a 'birding' trip...one day the guide sees a Kestral 50 yards away in crap light on a crap perch; they stop the van, he sets up the scope, they all take turns looking through it, then they check off their little box on the species list. Next day we pass another Kestrel with a snake in its mouth, perfect perch, perfect morning light and 20 feet away---I asked if they are going to stop, 'no, we got the Kestrel yesterday' aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr​gggggggg. Never go on a birding trip!

Forgot to mention this too. This image also shows the weakness of the a9 and that is cropability. The bierd was kinda distant and I think just barely makes usable in the crop with resolution; any more and it wouldn't have been usable at all. The A7Riii would have given me the world for cropping but I'd gotten 1 image at best with it and maybe not that.
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Thanks so much MM. Even though you say you are not a birder i find your photos quite amazing. Thank you for chiming in on your thought process.


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Mar 18, 2018 12:22 |  #13944

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Thanks so much MM. Even though you say you are not a birder i find your photos quite amazing. Thank you for chiming in on your thought process.

Nope. No birder here. But I love imaging them. Such a challenge to get it all right. You're very kind with the words. Thanks :)
Oh, proof I'm not a birder, I can probably truly identify 20 bierds. But I can tell you what shutter speed I'll need ha!


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Mar 18, 2018 12:25 |  #13945

Gene is your splash kit on the way? I bet you will have tons and tons of fun with it plus you
have the flash knowledge Poof and I stumble on.
Last night we used a different set up.
Four flashes aimed at the background, not at the drop area. Background just a piece of white foam board.

I keep forgetting POTN cannot/will not update the internal EXIF reader (or whateverthefrak it is called)-used
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Mar 18, 2018 13:53 |  #13946

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Gene is your splash kit on the way? I bet you will have tons and tons of fun with it plus you
have the flash knowledge Poof and I stumble on.
Last night we used a different set up.
Four flashes aimed at the background, not at the drop area. Background just a piece of white foam board.

I keep forgetting POTN cannot/will not update the internal EXIF reader (or whateverthefrak it is called)-used
the A7Riii + 4 x Godox 350TTS and the old timey Godox commander :)
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To be honest, I haven't gotten a trigger yet. Now that my grandson is no longer staying with me, I'll be able to get into splash photography more seriously. Thanks for posting images like this for inspiration (great sig too).


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Mar 18, 2018 14:01 |  #13947

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Nice touch with your name on the can

Thanks. I also changed the "Mary Kitchen" to "My Kitchen" with the shamrock in green. :-)


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Mar 18, 2018 14:33 |  #13949

Sony a7 III dynamic range and high ISO improve over its predecessor

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You might also find the noise comparisons at different ISO's interesting

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I've heard by some YouTube's that its high iso is better than the 7s2,, then I've heard other YouTube rs say that its being blown way out of proportion.

Unfortunately it seems like its getting harder to get unbiased info .. words like "this camera is a beast, monster , it annihilates , destroys xxx camera , etc get thrown around so freely by many big YouTube's its hard to tell if they are just ensuring they get into the next event


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