Yongnuo 560ii Flash compared to Canon Speedlite 430ex iii - color temp differs greatly

Ok, I am a newbie when it comes to lighting and my post will likely show that very much...

I am in Manual Mode - 1/250 at 8.0 at 400 ISO
When I use my YN in Manual mode with power at 1/2 - the image is on the cool side
When I use my Canon in Manual mode with power at 1/2 - the image is on the warmer side (while warm, it is much better than the YN).

I have adjusted the power on the flash units as I realize they are different sized, but I didn't expect such a drastic different.

I clearly must be doing some thing wrong.

What is happening here?
What am I doing wrong?

NOTE: I am hoping to be able to dial in the YN to look like the Canon was used.

I am using the same batteries.
The YN is a couple years old, but rarely used. Purchased new.
The Canon is brand new.


Cooler image is with YN/Warmer image is with Canon. Both SOOC

EXIF from image using YN Flash

File Name	IMG_6063.CR2
File Size	22.2MB
Camera Model	Canon EOS 70D
Firmware	Firmware Version 1.1.1
Shooting Date/Time	6/16/2017 5:12:39 PM
Owner's Name	
Shooting Mode	Manual Exposure
Tv(Shutter Speed)	1/250
Av(Aperture Value)	8.0
Metering Mode	Evaluative Metering
ISO Speed	400
Auto ISO Speed	OFF
Lens	EF-S18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM
Focal Length	35.0mm
Image Size	5472x3648
Crop/aspect ratio	3:2
Image Quality	RAW
Flash	Off
FE lock	OFF
White Balance Mode	Auto
AF Mode	One-Shot AF
AF area select mode	Manual selection
AF Microadjustment	4
Picture Style	Neutral
Sharpness	0
Contrast	0
Saturation	0
Color tone	0
Color Space	sRGB
Long exposure noise reduction	Auto
High ISO speed noise reduction	Standard
Highlight tone priority	Disable
Auto Lighting Optimizer	Disable
Peripheral illumination correction	Enable
Chromatic aberration correction	Enable
Dust Delete Data	No
Drive Mode	Single shooting
Live View Shooting	OFF
Camera Body No.	072024002683
Comment	

File Name	IMG_6061.CR2
File Size	21.9MB
Camera Model	Canon EOS 70D
Firmware	Firmware Version 1.1.1
Shooting Date/Time	6/16/2017 5:10:11 PM
Owner's Name	
Shooting Mode	Manual Exposure
Tv(Shutter Speed)	1/250
Av(Aperture Value)	8.0
Metering Mode	Evaluative Metering
ISO Speed	400
Auto ISO Speed	OFF
Lens	EF-S18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM
Focal Length	35.0mm
Image Size	5472x3648
Crop/aspect ratio	3:2
Image Quality	RAW
Flash	On
Flash Type	External Flash : Manual Flash
Flash Exposure Compensation	0
Shutter curtain sync	First-curtain synchronization
FE lock	OFF
White Balance Mode	Auto
AF Mode	One-Shot AF
AF area select mode	Manual selection
AF Microadjustment	4
Picture Style	Neutral
Sharpness	0
Contrast	0
Saturation	0
Color tone	0
Color Space	sRGB
Long exposure noise reduction	Auto
High ISO speed noise reduction	Standard
Highlight tone priority	Disable
Auto Lighting Optimizer	Disable
Peripheral illumination correction	Enable
Chromatic aberration correction	Enable
Dust Delete Data	No
Drive Mode	Single shooting
Live View Shooting	OFF
Camera Body No.	072024002683
Comment	

Eh, the whole image is warmer (including areas with light fall off), something tells me the white balance is your issue, not the flash.

Very best,

MalVeauX wrote in post #18380135
Eh, the whole image is warmer (including areas with light fall off), something tells me the white balance is your issue, not the flash.

Very best,

Martin, thank you for such as quick response...

In both images, the WB is set for Auto.

I did bring the RAWs into DPP and if I set the YN image to Cloudy, it matches up very similar to the Canon image. Both set to Cloudy, its very close.

So, is it the WB Auto mode that is interpreting the diffs in the flashes light output and acting accordingly?
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18380135

kezug wrote in post #18380140
Martin, thank you for such as quick response...

In both images, the WB is set for Auto.

I did bring the RAWs into DPP and if I set the YN image to Cloudy, it matches up very similar to the Canon image. Both set to Cloudy, its very close.

So, is it the WB Auto mode that is interpreting the diffs in the flashes light output and acting accordingly?
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18380135

Yes, auto white balance is picking up something, some where. With RAW, thankfully you can change it in post so it doesn't matter. But otherwise, set your white balance to whatever you want, but I would avoid AUTO, its just adding more work later to go back and correct everything as AUTO can produce all kinds of variable results. It may not even care what the light temp was, it could have done it based on your house lights cycling depending on what kind of bulbs they are, etc.

Your flashes are fine.

Very best,

kezug wrote in post #18380140
Martin, thank you for such as quick response...

In both images, the WB is set for Auto.

I did bring the RAWs into DPP and if I set the YN image to Cloudy, it matches up very similar to the Canon image. Both set to Cloudy, its very close.

So, is it the WB Auto mode that is interpreting the diffs in the flashes light output and acting accordingly?
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18380135

Auto white balance on Canon camera indoors is a crapshoot at best, that's before adding a complicating factor like differing brands of flash and inconsistent exposure. Be a bit more scientific by using a constant white balance, try flash wb or perhaps a custom wb, and normalize your exposure using a target like a gray card to compare exposures. I'll bet you find little difference in flash color unless one or the other flash is failing.