6d2 is here.

Bassat wrote in post #18391165
I've had my 6D since it came out. I've run into the 1/4000 limitation 2, maybe 3 times.

I got some ND filters pretty quickly too.

ma11rats wrote in post #18389858
I'll bet that the 7D2's AF points reach out the furthest of any of Canon's Dslr. That was the first thing I noticed on the 5d3 after using the 7d2. They were much closer to the center.

1Ds3/1D4 had the same set of points(I believe the 1D4 had more select-able points however). Same set of points(same AF system) covering a smaller sensor covers a wider range in the viewfinder.

Indeed, the 7D2 is by far the best having just now compared to the "classic" EOS 45 point "ring of fire" on EOS 3, 1V, 1D Mark IV, and the 5D4 and 7D2. The 5D3 I know was much tighter than 5D4, which I believe along with the 1Dx2 now clearly has the widest array of any Canon FF.

So 7D2 for crop, and 1Dx2/5D4 for FF.

I bet the 80D is pretty darn good though too.

Patrick H wrote in post #18391184
Oops I already did dismiss it. All of its other new features are great and are the reason I bought the 80D.

I am happy with the combo I have now. You can look at it from different angles. My perspective, replacing my 6D with a 6dii will only be a marginal upgrade.

Agreed. The only thing the 6DII offers above my 80D/6D combo is everything in one body. I'm not sure that is worth spending money on.

Bassat wrote in post #18391189
Agreed. The only thing the 6DII offers above my 80D/6D combo is everything in one body. I'm not sure that is worth spending money on.

I'm selling my M3 and sold my 6D to fund the 6D2 so I'm not too much out of pocket. Being that I have used an M5 for the past 6 months (same senor as the 80D) I know the performance of the 6D2 will be very impressive.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18391188
Indeed, the 7D2 is by far the best having just now compared to the "classic" EOS 45 point "ring of fire" on EOS 3, 1V, 1D Mark IV, and the 5D4 and 7D2. The 5D3 I know was much tighter than 5D4, which I believe along with the 1Dx2 now clearly has the widest array of any Canon FF.

So 7D2 for crop, and 1Dx2/5D4 for FF.

I bet the 80D is pretty darn good though too.

I bought my 80D with the thought of really good AI-Servo AF in a smaller lighter package. After using the 1D4 for 6 months, I was pleasantly surprised that the 80D is its equal, at least with regard to AF. I don't believe I ever got an OOF shot from the 1DIV that was not my fault. So far, the 80D is doing the same. The -3EV AF is an improvement over the 1D4.

Qualifier: I shoot sports/action with glass intended for that purpose. 85 1.8, 135L, 200II, and 70-200 f/4 IS

Dlee13 wrote in post #18391190
I'm selling my M3 and sold my 6D to fund the 6D2 so I'm not too much out of pocket. Being that I have used an M5 for the past 6 months (same senor as the 80D) I know the performance of the 6D2 will be very impressive.

I'll likely end up with a 6D2. I can wait until the price drops to $1800 or so, and the refurbs are going for $1400-$1500. My only fear is the bottom dropping out of the 6D used market by then.

rantercsr wrote in post #18391027
in this thread the only mention of the 1dxII I made was in refernence to Peter mckinon (I think I spelled it right) , a popular and successful youtuber who uses the 1DX2 for a lot of his vlog style videos .

I must have incorrectly recalled a post I read being yours,. my mistake.

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Yes, 100% agree, I am not one of "you guys" here. Although I personally am not a video person, I am on record dozens of times on this forum arguing against the same mentality you mention here. Canon was first with the 5D2 and should continue to lead this segment of the market IMHO.


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Well given that I completely associated you with someone else's post, I would say I was all over the place as well.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18389827
These are really important points .(pun might be intended ).

I am very frequently placing my main subject way out near the edge of the frame where my 1D4 does not have any focus points. . I do not like to focus and recompose because my framing is often so precise that it kills me to have to readjust the exact aiming of the camera. . Focusing and recomposing - even just a tiny little bit - is a pretty big deal when using huge lenses and locking them down on a gimbal head. . Every time I want to adjust my aim just the tiniest bit I have to loosen the vertical adjustment knob, loosen the horizontal adjustment knob, and loosen the lens collar knob, re-aim ever so slightly, then tighten all three knobs back up again.

Every time a new camera comes out within my price range, I hope that maybe it can be the long awaited replacement for my 1D4. . When I first got the 6D2 announcement from B&H, I thought that this could finally be the right camera for me. . But then when I look into it deeper, this lack of focus point coverage could be a total deal breaker. . Frame coverage is just so very important and has such a great effect on the images I take that I don't know if I could live with something that would cause me so much trouble in this area.

Hi Tom, you do know that with a touchscreen LCD like the 6DII has you can, in live view, touch the screen pretty much anywhere on it (except the very edges) to focus on whatever is at that point. No AFMA necessary. You can even set it to focus and trip the shutter by touch if you want. Or delayed shutter if you're worried about vibration. Since you are on a tripod anyway that seems like a good way to do it.

that's a very slippery slope there. FF dynamic range is offered by neither of your cameras, and for me that's the main reason to upgrade.

Dlee13 wrote in post #18391171
Those people are very annoying as instead of all of us just discussing our excitement and our genuine interest in this new body, we get to hear their moaning and whining about how unfair Canon is

I don't recall moaning/whining or indicating how unfair Canon is. Don't recall anyone else doing it either. I and others did indicate that we would have expected a few features at this price point that they left out. That's all. I also have never been a fan of the xxD form factor that Canon also uses for the 6D and 6D II, but that wouldn't necessarily deter me from buying it. Certainly this new camera is shaping up to be a stellar performer even without some important missing features like a second SD card or a 1/8000 shutter speed..

Bassat wrote in post #18390785
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Channel Islands
England
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Isle of Man
Northern Ireland
Scotland
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You were a member of the of the U.S. military, a civilian military employee, or a dependent of a member of the U.S. military who spent a total time of 6 months on or associated with a military base in any of the following areas during the specified time frames

From 1980 through 1990 - Belgium, the Netherlands (Holland), or Germany (me)
From 1980 through 1996 - Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Italy or Greece.

OMG thank you for finding this... I've been trying to locate this exact piece of information myself because people for some reason think it's appropriate to hound me for not donating blood. I was an Air Force brat growing up and lived in Germany for about 6-7 months in 1990 (not to mention the 6 years after that).

Anyway, that was random, but I did want to thank you.

Patrick H wrote in post #18391184
Oops I already did dismiss it. All of its other new features are great and are the reason I bought the 80D.

I am happy with the combo I have now. You can look at it from different angles. My perspective, replacing my 6D with a 6dii will only be a marginal upgrade.

Not sure its just a marginal upgrade. The images I've seem at ISO 40K seemed very clean. As lower ISO the samples I saw looked pretty spectacular.

mwsilver wrote in post #18391205
I don't recall moaning/whining or indicating how unfair Canon is. ....

I think one of the fundamental problems we ALWAYS see in internet discussions like this one, is that when we comment we often seem to;

A: In Posting, we forget to emphasize that the point of view being posted is personal. Instead we tend to post our point of view as if it applies to the world population. ie: "here is why this camera won't fit me needs" would ruffle very few feathers, but instead we see "all of this is missing, this camera can't possibly fit any ones needs"

B: In reading these posts, we read the personal point of view as an attack on our differing point of view.

I don't think we talk like this when we are making face to face contact? Or if we do, it is somehow much more easy to interpret in a manner that is less likely to put us on the defensive.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18391196
....You guys who say , if you want video go get a videography camera , really are out of touch with whats going on in the video side of the world..

Yes, 100% agree, I am not one of "you guys" here. Although I personally am not a video person, I am on record dozens of times on this forum arguing against the same mentality you mention here. Canon was first with the 5D2 and should continue to lead this segment of the market IMHO.....

I'd be happy enough if Canon offered video options on its cameras or offered 'cinema' variants ... but it feels like 'full line forcing' when I can't buy any variation of something like the 5Div that doesn't come without 4k video (and I have to pay for whatever hardware is needed to shift the extra heat, and deal with long confusing additional menus relating to stuff I have no interest in, etc., etc.)

While I know the video guys feel a lot of the stills guys don't appreciate the benefits of incorporating video capabilities into cameras, I don't think they have any appreciation of the almost unplumbable depth of lack of interest many stills shooters have in having video paraphernalia stuffed down their throats. There really is a case for greater separation between stills and video lines.

Bassat wrote in post #18391189
Agreed. The only thing the 6DII offers above my 80D/6D combo is everything in one body. I'm not sure that is worth spending money on.

ed rader wrote in post #18391203
that's a very slippery slope there. FF dynamic range is offered by neither of your cameras, and for me that's the main reason to upgrade.

Is that what you meant to type? If so, I don't have a clue what you are saying. Am I somehow not getting full frame dynamic range out of my 6D? Help me out, here.