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Nov 08, 2017 01:18 |  #316

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Nov 08, 2017 06:37 |  #317

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How is the autofocus accuracy on the 6D ii? Can you compare with the first version and the other cameras like 80D, 7D ii and 5D iv.

I decided to stick with my 6D but this camera still confuses me from time to time.

How so?


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Nov 09, 2017 01:34 as a reply to  @ saea501's post |  #318

I just want the articulating screen and the better autofocus. I hate the autofocus of 6D, rest I'm happy with the first version.

I am confused if it's worth paying 2000$ on this new camera and selling my 6D for nothing as a second hand.


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Nov 09, 2017 06:31 as a reply to  @ Robinson Crusoe's post |  #320

I hate the autofocus of 6D, rest I'm happy with the first version.

What about the 6D's AF system do you not like? It is essentially the system the 40D used 10 years ago with the addition of a couple of assist points; I have a 40D, still use it, it still AF's accurately. It has its quirks, but so does every other Canon AF system that I have used. From all reports the center AF point on the 6D is accurate and reliable in lower light than many higher spec'd cameras.

I have also used the Canon 80D which has the same AF system as the 6D2. While it is more flexible than the older 9pt system I cannot say that it is more accurate or precise in actual use. The 80D AF parameters are not as configurable as those in either the 7D or 7D2 but they are more user configurable than the old 9pt systems, so there is that.


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Nov 09, 2017 07:17 |  #321

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What about the 6D's AF system do you not like? It is essentially the system the 40D used 10 years ago with the addition of a couple of assist points; I have a 40D, still use it, it still AF's accurately. It has its quirks, but so does every other Canon AF system that I have used. From all reports the center AF point on the 6D is accurate and reliable in lower light than many higher spec'd cameras.

I have also used the Canon 80D which has the same AF system as the 6D2. While it is more flexible than the older 9pt system I cannot say that it is more accurate or precise in actual use. The 80D AF parameters are not as configurable as those in either the 7D or 7D2 but they are more user configurable than the old 9pt systems, so there is that.

I have a T2i and it focuses as same if not better than a years later produced 6D. There are only 11 autofocus points, same as my T2i, covers very few areas as a result. Center point maybe working fine but side points are nearly useless which I have to crop every photo I take and make extra work, also lose megapixels. Autofocus speed is quite slow in harder conditions. Especially with the glass I'm using I expect a much better performance.

I didn't say anything bad. For the price I paid for the 6D specs maybe normal and in 2017 as a customer I am considering if it's wise to move to 6D2 for a serious money. I don't really criticize anything, just comparing my options. Where I live I don't have a chance to put my hands on all the new technologies just entering a store. I don't buy and sell, use the gear I buy for years. Even if I ever have a chance to try people who own it will be able to compare much better as they try both cameras in many different conditions.

Thanks for the info.

Edit: After writing I checked google and realized that 6D was out 2 years after T2i, I bought it late(late 2015 I guess). It makes sense that I'm not seeing huge improvement on the autofocus system, mystery solved lol


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Nov 09, 2017 08:38 |  #322

My 6D was getting 5 year old. I was getting good price, thanks to wedding photographers buying it as back up camera.
First thought off switching to Sony 7ii. But lenses are too costly for Sony system. Finally just upgraded to 6Dii and 24-105ii. Positively a good upgrade. Recommended to 6D owners

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Nov 09, 2017 10:49 |  #323

Robinson Crusoe wrote in post #18492407 (external link)
I just want the articulating screen and the better autofocus. I hate the autofocus of 6D, rest I'm happy with the first version.

I am confused if it's worth paying 2000$ on this new camera and selling my 6D for nothing as a second hand.

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Nov 09, 2017 10:54 |  #324

ssmanak wrote in post #18492549 (external link)
My 6D was getting 5 year old. I was getting good price, thanks to wedding photographers buying it as back up camera.
First thought off switching to Sony 7ii. But lenses are too costly for Sony system. Finally just upgraded to 6Dii and 24-105ii. Positively a good upgrade. Recommended to 6D owners

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Nov 09, 2017 11:46 as a reply to  @ Cooltigers's post |  #325

Original 6D with kit lens is excellent camera. That's why after 5 year of its launch, canon could barely upgrade its picture and high ISO quality.
Only downside is that you may not get a good resale in another year or two...


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Nov 09, 2017 12:23 |  #326

The original 6d's outer AF points work perfectly fine in most lighting conditions IF you pay attention to what you're having them lock onto. They NEED an obvious contrast line. For example...black tux/white shirt line....brunette hairline along face...eye when framed closely..etc

Don't place the outer AF point on a solid colored shirt and expect it to lock focus. It's not a cross-type AF point.

I've used the 6d for over 4 years now and only have an issue with the outer points in dark rooms. Everywhere else I have no problem locking on, just make sure there's a contrasting line where you place the box.


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Nov 09, 2017 13:54 |  #327

ma11rats wrote in post #18492714 (external link)
The original 6d's outer AF points work perfectly fine in most lighting conditions IF you pay attention to what you're having them lock onto. They NEED an obvious contrast line. For example...black tux/white shirt line....brunette hairline along face...eye when framed closely..etc

Don't place the outer AF point on a solid colored shirt and expect it to lock focus. It's not a cross-type AF point.

I've used the 6d for over 4 years now and only have an issue with the outer points in dark rooms. Everywhere else I have no problem locking on, just make sure there's a contrasting line where you place the box.

Doesn’t sound like you understand the difference between line and cross sensors. A solid color shirt at least without any wrinkles causing contrast will cause AF issues with all sensors cross or line. The top and bottom sensors in the 6D have horizontal line sensors so horizontal stripes will give them issues and vice versa with the vertical line sensors on the outer left and right points.


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Nov 09, 2017 14:01 |  #328

FEChariot wrote in post #18492781 (external link)
Doesn’t sound like you understand the difference between line and cross sensors. A solid color shirt at least without any wrinkles causing contrast will cause AF issues with all sensors cross or line. The top and bottom sensors in the 6D have horizontal line sensors so vertical stripes will give them issues and vice versa with the vertical line sensors on the outer left and right points.


I understand completely. I didn't mention which direction or orientation the point sensors were set. I just mentioned that you need to look for lines of contrast vs solid coloring.


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Nov 09, 2017 20:30 |  #329

ma11rats wrote in post #18492791 (external link)
I understand completely. I didn't mention which direction or orientation the point sensors were set. I just mentioned that you need to look for lines of contrast vs solid coloring.

Except you inferred that having cross type sensors would help with no contrast solid coloring which is not correct. If there is no contrast then line and cross sensors are equally ineffective.

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Don't place the outer AF point on a solid colored shirt and expect it to lock focus. It's not a cross-type AF point.


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Nov 09, 2017 20:46 |  #330

Always used centre point on 6D... focus and recompose. Outer point only for portraits with my 50mm lens. Outer points on eyes no issues...

Even with 6Dii.. area covered by AF points is small like old 6D... that even with outer point on eyes you are forced to recompose.. considering this camera is such a value for money... acceptable AF in new and old models


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