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Upgrade from 100D (SL1) to 200D (SL2)

 
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Aug 14, 2017 15:16 |  #1

Hi Everyone, I have a 100D since 2013, only a few months since it came out. For you reference, my only other owned camera before that was a 2nd hand 350D.

I do casual photography, the typical stuff: travel, kids, family, etc... (you can see my flickr stream to understand the type of photos I usually do)

I value a lot the lightness of the 100D and were not planning to upgrade, as I'm very pleased with the performance.
If there is something that I miss, it's mainly low ISO performance at first,and then some small things , like the non-movable screen, short buffer when shotting burst.

I have a decent set of lens which I'm very satisfied, so I do not plan to change brand, so when I saw the announcement of the 200D, I felt interested to see which were the improvements of my camera after 4 years in the market.

Pros of the upgrade:

· Better ISO (have been impressed with the samples)
· Movable screen

I don't care
· Burst rate improved from 4FPS to 5FPS
· More megapixels

Worries
· AF not improved (only 9 points)
· Buffer not improved? (from what I read)

Honestly, not sure to upgrade, as there balance is a lot in-between... some improvements but deceived at some things.
Obviously I don't want to go to larger cameras, as I value a lot the portability that I currently have.

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Aug 14, 2017 15:19 |  #2

If you really, really want an articulating screen, it's something to consider.

Otherwise, incremental upgrade steps are not worth it really. Wait for the Sl3 or a mirrorless like the M5.

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Aug 14, 2017 15:55 |  #3

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If you really, really want an articulating screen, it's something to consider.

Otherwise, incremental upgrade steps are not worth it really. Wait for the Sl3 or a mirrorless like the M5.

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the articulating screen is not that important for me... would be useful in some situations, but it's not a big big deal for me...


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Aug 17, 2017 07:01 |  #4

Wider DR if it's using the same sensor as the 80D.


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Aug 17, 2017 07:24 |  #5

Pros:

- Better DR at low ISOs
- More resolution
- Better high ISO
- Better touchscreen/flippy screen
- Only $550, around the prices of some bridge cameras
- 1fps more than the SL1
- DPAF
- Bigger battery capacity

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- You lose the IR eye for remote triggering
- AF system seems unchanged, or very minor changes


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Aug 19, 2017 15:14 |  #6

Thanks everyone,

I think that two main points are preventing me to upgrade :

· Lack of better AF system
· Lack of more burst shots buffer.

My best option to not have too much weight would be 77D for what I see...

It's a big improvement in many terms, so I think this would not be an easy decision, will be continue to think about it.
In the meanwhile, my 100D is still performing beautifully, so no hurry ;)


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Aug 19, 2017 21:52 |  #7

llondru wrote in post #18431884 (external link)
Thanks everyone,

I think that two main points are preventing me to upgrade :

· Lack of better AF system
· Lack of more burst shots buffer.

My best option to not have too much weight would be 77D for what I see...

It's a big improvement in many terms, so I think this would not be an easy decision, will be continue to think about it.
In the meanwhile, my 100D is still performing beautifully, so no hurry ;)

I think the 77D would be your best bet to get a considerable amount of upgrade while still keeping small-ish in size. You're already used to the 1/4000 max SS and pentamirror viewfinder vs prism that's in the 80D(even larger) so it won't seem like downgrading. But basically EVERYTHING else will be an upgrade.
I've considered the SL2 because the price is right but I can't live w/o a rotating thumb dial. So the 77D is going to be my small travel/bday party/etc body. I've held it in my hands, it's small and light but has a nice deep grip.
I've been watching it's pricing since it's release. It did have a $50 price break but that seems to have gone. And as of yesterday it's still not on Canon's refurb site(US) BUT the T6s(which the 77D replaced) has come down in the $600s.

My 2 cents, go to a local camera shop and bring your SL1, pick up and hold the 77d and see if you'll mind the slightly larger size.


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Aug 23, 2017 23:02 |  #8

llondru wrote in post #18431884 (external link)
Thanks everyone,

I think that two main points are preventing me to upgrade :

· Lack of better AF system
· Lack of more burst shots buffer.

My best option to not have too much weight would be 77D for what I see...

It's a big improvement in many terms, so I think this would not be an easy decision, will be continue to think about it.
In the meanwhile, my 100D is still performing beautifully, so no hurry ;)

One advantage of SL2 over 77d is, bigger view finder.


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Aug 24, 2017 00:37 |  #9

Slightly better DR than the 77d as well, cleaner shadows.


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Aug 26, 2017 11:43 |  #10

Good macro camera too, as I found out today.

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Aug 26, 2017 11:45 |  #11

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18437504 (external link)
Good macro camera too, as I found out today.

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Wonderful shots! What lens were you shooting with?

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Aug 26, 2017 11:58 as a reply to  @ BigAl007's post |  #12

Thank you! Using the 100L and the small tube out of 3. For lighting, using an AD200 with diffuser dome.

I started the SL2 gallery thread, surprised we didn't have one as this has been out for a few weeks now.
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1485527


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Aug 29, 2017 18:05 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #13

I'm debating the same thing. If I can get a decent amount for my SL1 on Craigslist, I'll upgrade in a heartbeat. I'd love the articulating screen and ability to connect it to my phone to grab snapshots and post them on Facebook or text them to relatives.


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Aug 29, 2017 19:01 |  #14

I think the SL1 is an amazingly good second/travel camera. While it performs very well in its own right, it really works best as the 'other' camera you can just grab onto when your main kit is going to be too heavy or obtrusive. I see it as a complement to, rather than as a substitute for, a 'full size' Canon crop or FF camera.

The SL2 seems like a good improvement on the SL1 at a modest price. Since I have the SL1 already and it does all I require of it, I will probably pass on this one, however, and wait until the SL3 comes along. But it looks like a great option if you don't already have the SL1.


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Aug 29, 2017 21:26 |  #15

But look at the wonderful low ISO DR the SL2 has, why wait? :D

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