Well, with wide angle, DOF isn't really a concern, and at very low ISOs for a daylight shot, again not going to be anything that can really be noticed IMO.
The issue here is expectation and lens, it seems...
TeamSpeed 01010100 01010011 More info | Aug 22, 2017 07:17 | #16 Well, with wide angle, DOF isn't really a concern, and at very low ISOs for a daylight shot, again not going to be anything that can really be noticed IMO. Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery
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JohnfromPA Cream of the Crop 11,255 posts Likes: 1525 Joined May 2003 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania More info | Aug 22, 2017 16:46 | #17 Nothing to do with the distortion, but as someone touched on, the exposure of 1/250 at f/8 (ISO 125) is likely about one-stop too much.
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RDKirk Adorama says I'm "packed." More info | Aug 23, 2017 07:36 | #18 Van Gogh wrote in post #18433924 Where full frames shine are high ISO performance and shallow Depth of Field for portraits. There is not going to be an astronomical jump for image quality even in that scenarios but the difference is there. And big prints. Compare at 30x40 inches, and the difference is clear. TANSTAAFL--The Only Unbreakable Rule in Photography
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Bassat "I am still in my underwear." 8,075 posts Likes: 2742 Joined Oct 2015 More info Post edited over 6 years ago by Bassat. | Aug 23, 2017 07:53 | #19 Permanent banRDKirk wrote in post #18434744 And big prints. Compare at 30x40 inches, and the difference is clear. True. But way too frequently blown all out of proportion. An acquaintance prints 20"x30" from a 7D all the time. They look fantastic. My family doctor's office is festooned with huge prints of his vacations (ironic, I help pay for those vacations). His goto camera is a P&S. Some of them are from his cell phone.
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joedlh Cream of the Crop 5,511 posts Gallery: 52 photos Likes: 684 Joined Dec 2007 Location: Long Island, NY, N. America, Sol III, Orion Spur, Milky Way, Local Group, Virgo Cluster, Laniakea. More info | Aug 23, 2017 08:10 | #20 Bassat wrote in post #18434755 True. But way too frequently blown all out of proportion. An acquaintance prints 20"x30" from a 7D all the time. They look fantastic. My family doctor's office is festooned with huge prints of his vacations (ironic, I help pay for those vacations). His goto camera is a P&S. Some of them are from his cell phone. I was concerned that prints from my lowly 8mp APS-C 20D would not be great beyond 11x14. That was until one of my shots of a rehabilitated dolphin release was blown up to 3x5 feet (not by me; I would have tried to talk them out of it) and displayed in the Long Island Aquarium. It looked fine at a distance, which was the intention. Joe
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SereneSpeed Goldmember 1,081 posts Likes: 2535 Joined Jan 2013 More info | Aug 23, 2017 10:00 | #21 Give it some time. Get used to the camera as a whole. When you are comfortable with it in your normal shooting conditions, you will try it in new and more challenging conditions and then one day a year from now, you'll open a file from your 550D and wonder why it's broken. There is a huge difference to me. But when I upgraded (the same camera to the same camera) I felt the way you did. It took me a while to appreciate the differences. You'll be amazed at what you can pull of with that camera, but it takes time to appreciate it. https://www.danbcreative.com
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SereneSpeed Goldmember 1,081 posts Likes: 2535 Joined Jan 2013 More info | Aug 23, 2017 10:05 | #22 joedlh wrote in post #18432765 Um, the Earth is a sphere. The horizon is mostly perceived as flat, but it's not. A wide angle lens will make the curvature more apparent.
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RDKirk Adorama says I'm "packed." More info Post edited over 6 years ago by RDKirk. | Aug 23, 2017 22:14 | #23 Bassat wrote in post #18434755 True. But way too frequently blown all out of proportion. Good one. An acquaintance prints 20"x30" from a 7D all the time. They look fantastic. My family doctor's office is festooned with huge prints of his vacations (ironic, I help pay for those vacations). His goto camera is a P&S. Some of them are from his cell phone. A lot depends on what kind of detail is in the image to being with. Some images simply don't have significant detail. Or course, it also depends on the discrimination of the viewer, as well. If bigger is better, why stop at full frame 35mm? Get yourself a 6x7, or 8x10 plate camera. My BIL does gallery exhibits of his photography. Shots from his 645D hang along-side shots from his Panasonic P&S. Artistry is not in the tools. It's in the artist. Up until the 5D Classic, I used both 4x5 and 6x7. Here is the test that finally convinced me to retire my Mamiya RZ67 Image hosted by forum (872514) © RDKirk [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. This was from a half-length portrait, both images taken in quick succession. If you'll notice, there is an inscription at about the 7:00 position on the man's contact lens, visible in both images. The Mamiya image still has a tiny bit better resolution and contrast than the 5D image, but this was close enough to enable me, finally, to retire the medium format camera. TANSTAAFL--The Only Unbreakable Rule in Photography
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Bassat "I am still in my underwear." 8,075 posts Likes: 2742 Joined Oct 2015 More info | Permanent banInteresting post. Most certainly, image content and anticipating viewing situation matter in large prints. Incidentally, I gave up MF in 1976 when I got my first 35mm SLR.
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RDKirk Adorama says I'm "packed." More info | Aug 24, 2017 06:52 | #25 Bassat wrote in post #18435668 Interesting post. Most certainly, image content and anticipating viewing situation matter in large prints. Incidentally, I gave up MF in 1976 when I got my first 35mm SLR. Correction: My BIL shoots a Pentax 645 film camera, not the 645D. I was deep into my f/64 period in 1976--rolling in medium format, going into large format. TANSTAAFL--The Only Unbreakable Rule in Photography
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Monkeymoss Goldmember 1,339 posts Likes: 1984 Joined Apr 2012 Location: Bristol, England More info | Aug 24, 2017 12:25 | #26 SereneSpeed wrote in post #18434867 Give it some time. Get used to the camera as a whole. When you are comfortable with it in your normal shooting conditions, you will try it in new and more challenging conditions and then one day a year from now, you'll open a file from your 550D and wonder why it's broken. There is a huge difference to me. But when I upgraded (the same camera to the same camera) I felt the way you did. It took me a while to appreciate the differences. You'll be amazed at what you can pull of with that camera, but it takes time to appreciate it. Another factor of your distortion is that your crop sensor sampled from the centre of EF lenses. That same lens on your crop body would not have shown that much horizon and therefore the distortion would not have been so in-your-face noticeable. Also, the 24-70 is a nice entry-level L lens, but as discussed, it is not perfect and will need some tweaking in post. Agree with this. I had the same thoughts. The change from crop to full frame is more subtle than some people think IMHO. Plus some don't realise the downsides of FF such as what you are seeing in the distortion, more vignetting. That's said, I love my 5d now, definitely takes a long time to learn the camera properly though. Jon
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