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Nov 03, 2017 00:34 |  #16

Also, i want to get a new calibration device, i do have Spyder3St and Spyder4El, they are old generations now, what would be a better upgrade, X-Rite or another Datacolor Spyder? and if i will go with X-Rite then which one?

I will try to sell both of my Spyder calibration so i can have good money to buy another one, wish if i can sell them both for nearly $200, but i can't build a big hope, just i have to wait and see once i offer them for sale, and look for replacement.

I do see many calibrations coming with bonus stuff, are they really necessary? i need used that printer profiler or calibration, and i also bought Passport color checker, so some X-Rite calibration adding those for little more cost, i also have many color checkers and gray cards, should i just buy a monitor calibration alone without extras if i have them or won't use them more often?


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Nov 03, 2017 18:45 |  #17

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My TV has VGA port, does this support 4K or even that ACD native resolution of 2560x1600 if i bought a right cable?

No, VGA is an anolog video technology that at best is 1920x1080 (DVI is digital, and often times is considered to have sharper text). As for what resolution you can output to from your computer: that can be limited to what your computer supports. I suspected your older Mac wouldn't be able to fully output UHD resolutions (it's just too new of a standard). As for your other post about calibrators...what's limiting about the Spider 4? I have a X-rite Color Monki that works well, but would only consider upgrading if I found it wasn't working.


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Nov 03, 2017 19:13 |  #18

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No, VGA is an anolog video technology that at best is 1920x1080 (DVI is digital, and often times is considered to have sharper text). As for what resolution you can output to from your computer: that can be limited to what your computer supports. I suspected your older Mac wouldn't be able to fully output UHD resolutions (it's just too new of a standard). As for your other post about calibrators...what's limiting about the Spider 4? I have a X-rite Color Monki that works well, but would only consider upgrading if I found it wasn't working.

Fair enough, i shouldn't think more about it, but as i said, the important point is that i should look for monitor that is large enough for me regardless what resolution it is, for long time i used to that ACD so i think i can get used to something better with new monitor as long it has good gamut and color quality.

I have to test my Spyder 4 again, my Spyder 3 stopped working once i updated my computers, and i didn't calibrate my Mac since long time with Spyder 4, so maybe it is still working, or maybe new OS is no longer compatible with Spyder 4, that is why they have newer version then, but i feel that X-Rite is better than Spyder versions somehow, from different reviews i see the edge going to X-Rite, but they choose i1 Display over Color Munki, and that what i was planning to get.

Until now i didn't decide on which monitor of that larger size than 30", i can't just look at their specifications and choose one, in some point i want NEC but it is very pricey, then Dell is most rated, and then BenQ as another good option for monitor, ASUS and Samsung have mixed reviews or feeling, good i tested my Mac Mini on my TV and found out that settings need to be changed, just color quality wasn't right on TV, monitor should be, but i don't know if i can calibrate my TV with calibration device too, when i use PC windows it is just right and i don't need to change things, while when i connect to Mac it is different, i only want new monitor for Mac not Windows desktop.


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Nov 03, 2017 20:06 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #19

As previously discussed, the cheapest 30" displays are probably inferior to your ACD. Apart from Dell, the BenQ SW2700PT 27" is something to consider: it has a lot of features geared for photo editing. For something cheaper, the Asus PB328Q 32" seems to offer good display specs.


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Nov 03, 2017 22:46 |  #20

davesrose wrote in post #18487999 (external link)
As previously discussed, the cheapest 30" displays are probably inferior to your ACD. Apart from Dell, the BenQ SW2700PT 27" is something to consider: it has a lot of features geared for photo editing. For something cheaper, the Asus PB328Q 32" seems to offer good display specs.

Ok, thank you very much!


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Nov 27, 2017 14:57 |  #21

Hi again,

Ok, i revisit my thread and i want to modify my plan.

I bought a 4K TV [65"], and i connected it to my Mac, and as i expected, the size sounds weird or wrong of desktop, but because i am an idiot i didn't know that i have to play with settings, so by coincidence i resized the desktop icons and it fit perfectly on that TV size, so it wasn't that 30" is fitting the desktop better, it was that i have to re-sit it for different sizes anyway, by that it means i really don't need to be strict about 30", now i can freely say i will look for 4K monitor but definitely not less than 30", so there are 31" i think or 32" or whatever, but not up to 34", and the resolution is 3840 X 2160 is fine for me.

Now, the only 2 conditions i am looking for this monitor to be are:

1. Matte or Anti-glare, i don't know if all monitors are already in matte look or not, so i want to be sure it is, i hate the reflection, i have 15" and the glossy reflection is killing me, and that is just 15" not +30".

2. Wide gamut, so i want it for precise and true colors or accurate enough, i will use a calibration, but i want it to be that so so good for colors as i am dialing with photos from high quality cameras, so workflow is important for me, not thinking about gaming which they go for video part more than photo quality/resolution part maybe.

I don't mind if it is an IPS panel type, sounds this is the standard for quality, right? i don't know what other things i should look at too, but if can have that hood that will be a bonus, but not a must, do you know such a monitor with those requirements or matching the 2 points above?

I welcome all recommendations.


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