7DM2 plus 5Dc

Canon refurbs on sale $1100 for the 6D with 1 year warranty... $260 off for labor day.

https://shop.usa.canon​.com …g/eos-6d-body-refurbished

thanks for the info, but now you just aren't helping by justifying a higher priced product lol

Do you think the 6d mark I will still be available around xmas? as in maybe a year end sale or trying sell the remaining products since the mark ii is released?

Bongcruz wrote in post #18443778
thanks for the info, but now you just aren't helping by justifying a higher priced product lol

Do you think the 6d mark I will still be available around xmas? as in maybe a year end sale or trying sell the remaining products since the mark ii is released?

i don't think the 6D has been discontinued yet, so i'd say it should be around...maybe even better prices if it gets marked down more when being discontinued...there are always used bodies available as well.

Azathoth wrote in post #18441659
On the weekend, if i have some time i'll post a direct comparison shot between 5D @ ISO50 and and 70D @ ISO100, both ETTR, real world like, with shadows pushed to the max on LIghtroom.

Sorry, my 5D needs some repair. This is not forgotten, i'll do it when i'll get my camera back.

Still don't have my 5D, but i just found some old tests i made some time ago. I took 5 stops underexposed shots and adjusted +5 exposure on lightroom to the raw files. Then i exported to a 1024 pixels width size:

5D @ ISO100:

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Who is shooting 5 stops underexposed on real shots?

Now 3 stops underexposed:

1100D at ISO100:

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- Comparing nearly 100% crops would be nice than a resized to a postage stamp size.
- Why are you handicapping the 70D at ISO 100 and comparing to ISO 50 on the 5D? You have to take the 70D down 1 stop in raw to compare.
- Having the raw would be nice
- Shooting in artificial lights without setting a WB makes noise appear better or worse depending on the phase you hit. You should fix the WB.

Here is the 70D/5D at ISO 100, I know which I feel looks better, and this is just with the resized down to 1024. Processing each of the files individually to get the most out of them, then comparing would be really telling.

In my opinion having the final image at the same size gives a fair comparison because the 1100D and 5D are 12 megapixels and the 70D has 20. So a 100% crop of the 70D would yeld more detail and would make comparison more difficult. And btw a 100% crop of the 5D would make the 70D and 1100D look very bad, yeah it gives more detail because of the more megapixels (12 in the 5D vs 20 in the 70D ) but these crop cameras at 100% crop is like looking through a very old and thick glass.

To fix the WB issue has to wait, i don't have my 5D back yet.

And finally i didn't handycapped the 70D at ISO100, Canon did it. If 70D had ISO50 i would love to compare it. So i included the 5D @ ISO 50 and also ISO100.

Azathoth wrote in post #18448179
In my opinion having the final image at the same size gives a fair comparison because the 1100D and 5D are 12 megapixels and the 70D has 20. So a 100% crop of the 70D would yeld more detail and would make comparison more difficult. And btw a 100% crop of the 5D would make the 70D and 1100D look very bad, yeah it gives more detail because of the more megapixels (12 in the 5D vs 20 in the 70D ) but these crop cameras at 100% crop is like looking through a very old and thick glass.

To fix the WB issue has to wait, i don't have my 5D back yet.

And finally i didn't handycapped the 70D at ISO100, Canon did it. If 70D had ISO50 i would love to compare it. So i included the 5D @ ISO 50 and also ISO100.

The 5d doesn't have iso 50 either, or the 70d does have it, you just have to do what camera won't do for you, take your pick. The camera simply shoots at iso 100 and pulls the raw file back for you, everyone knows this. It isn't really iso 50, it is a digital pull.

I feel you are just poking the bear, so I won't say any more about this. The 7d2 is better than all 3 you show so it is moot anyways. I have shown an apples to apples 7d2 and 5d4, so no more needs said. I have had 3 5d bodies in the past, and as good as it is generally, pushing shadows isn't its strength.

just wanted to say, got my 5d4 come in today. didn't like the 6d's and thought about 5d3, but loved the similiar features of the 5d4 to the 7d2. Autofocus points quick change, quick swap from oneshot<>AF Servo, had a t4i first and really missed the touch screen. Overall, i am super happy and had a chance to play with the RAW files, i really appreciate how much i can lift the shadows compared to a 7d2 and how much cleaner the images are in low light higher ISO. Getting a 16-35 or a 24-70 2.8 within the next couple of weeks.

Bongcruz wrote in post #18437640
So I've never shot full frame and noticed these 5D classics been cheap lately and wouldn't mind snagging a full frame. But with new APSC sensor,would it still be worth it from shooting with my 7DM2? Still keeping the 7d but I mean, a full frame is a full frame right? Thoughts?

Well, consider the fact that at 16x24" print size

• 5D image is 4368x2912 pixels and at 16.9x enlargement, a lens which delivered 150 lines-pairs/mm of detail on sensor has 8.9 line-pairs/mm on print
  
• 7DII image is 5472x3648 pixels and at 27x enlargement, a lens which delivered 150 lines-pairs/mm of detail on sensor has 5.5 line-pairs/mm on print
  

Bongcruz wrote in post #18516282
just wanted to say, got my 5d4 come in today. ...

Congrats, it's an awesome camera!

i like the way the thread opened with wanting to buy a cheap 5Dc...and he ends up with a 5DIV...good job guys on continuing to make people spend more money

POTN or G.A.S.-aholics anonymous?