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How can I clone the color over the texture in this bright sun/shade grass?

 
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Sep 01, 2017 17:44 |  #1

I am unable to find a tutorial on this. I want to basically use the bright color grass at the top as my clone source, but only to clone the color over the texture of the darker grass area.

I have LR and PS, can someone just tell me the key words for the steps to do and I can take if from there...I just cant seem to use the right tool, layers, levels/colors, etc.... The closest I get is using the clone tool with Lighten Mode and that kind of works but it is changing the grass texture when I apply the clone...which I dont want or want to lessen the effect.

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Sep 01, 2017 18:09 |  #2

If it were mine, I'd first soften the area selected so that it matches the out-of-focus grass above it (after all, you don't need any of it sharp) and then simply clone light grass from the top area to below, or instead lighten the now softened bottom. That's a quick fix but I realize this doesn't really answer your question about cloning the colour, so I'll be interested in what others say.




  
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Sep 01, 2017 18:13 |  #3

Do you mean like this?

Two basic steps - you need to bring the tonal value of the grass in the shade up to the tonal value of the grass in the sun. I selected the shady grass and made a curves layer (using the selection as a mask) and set the curves layer to "Screen" blending mode. This will begin to lighten the shady grass. I duplicated the screen layer and set the second screen layer's opacity to about 75% (the original screen layer was left at 100%). Next, you need to introduce the color from the sunny grass into the area you just brightened. I selected a patch of the sunny grass and used "Blur > Average" to get the average color - I sampled this color and set it to the foreground color (and then deleted this average blur layer when done). Then I added a Solid Color adjustment layer set to the greenish sampled average color of the sunny grass and added a black mask to hide the layer. I set the blend mode of the Solid Color layer to "Color" and then painted in the color into the newly brightened shady area by painting white on the mask.

You would probably need to introduce some green variation into the new area - you can use a mask (based on luminance) and use a hue-sat adjustment and adjust hue a little, pushing the selected (or inverse selected) colors toward more greenish-blue, away from the chartreuse-yellow. Or use another Solid Color layer (set to color blend mode) with a different green and use Blend If to target the darker tones. Etc. This will mimic the variation seen in the sunny grass. Or something like that.

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Sep 01, 2017 18:43 |  #4

  • select the shadow area
  • open a blank layer, create a mask with the selection, change blend mode to color, sample the sunlit grass, fill layer
  • ctrl-click the mask to get the selection, open a curves adj layer, change blend mode to luminosity, push up curve until the shadow area matches the bright area
This is obviously done in Photoshop, not Lightroom.

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Sep 01, 2017 18:44 as a reply to  @ kirkt's post |  #5

Thanks for the tutorial Kirk.




  
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Sep 01, 2017 18:50 as a reply to  @ kirkt's post |  #6

^^^^ That is exactly what I was looking for...but I am very :oops: that I am unable to follow your direction. Your directions are likely fine and its just me as I am new to using PS...I have good basic understanding of layers and masks as I have been using GIMP for a while but I am missing some things in my steps that just do not seem to follow what you describe.

I was able to create a curves layer and adjust so that the color is near the light color I am targeting. However, when I attempt to create the duplicate layer of the curves layer, I am getting this...and then I am lost from there....I may be too new at LR/PS for this. Sorry, but I may need a bit more instructions (short cut keys along with your steps may help...I also need to see examples)...If I am asking too much, then I understand.

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Sep 02, 2017 10:17 |  #7

Peano wrote in post #18442434 (external link)
  • select the shadow area
  • open a blank layer, create a mask with the selection, change blend mode to color, sample the sunlit grass, fill layer
  • ctrl-click the mask to get the selection, open a curves adj layer, change blend mode to luminosity, push up curve until the shadow area matches the bright area
This is obviously done in Photoshop, not Lightroom.
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This worked best for me...I was able to get very similar results. THANK YOU!


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Sep 02, 2017 10:38 |  #8

kezug wrote in post #18442439 (external link)
^^^^ That is exactly what I was looking for...but I am very :oops: that I am unable to follow your direction. Your directions are likely fine and its just me as I am new to using PS...I have good basic understanding of layers and masks as I have been using GIMP for a while but I am missing some things in my steps that just do not seem to follow what you describe.

I was able to create a curves layer and adjust so that the color is near the light color I am targeting. However, when I attempt to create the duplicate layer of the curves layer, I am getting this...and then I am lost from there....I may be too new at LR/PS for this. Sorry, but I may need a bit more instructions (short cut keys along with your steps may help...I also need to see examples)...If I am asking too much, then I understand.
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It looks like you got the problem solved. Just an FYI- when you make an adjustment layer (like curves) and set its blend mode to screen to lighten an image, you do not need to touch the curve itself. The curve layer is just a dummy layer to apply the screen operation. You could achieve the same thing by duplicating the background layer and setting it to screen, but the file size would increase significantly; using a blank adjustment layer to screen saves file size and gives you the same control (masking, blend if, layer opacity and fill percentage, etc.).

You can use the same concept, but with multiply blend mode, to darken an image.

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