illmatik53 wrote in post #18446233
Wow, thank you for the in depth response. It is very much appreciated. I think I understand what you're saying. I would like to eventually get an M series, but like I said, probably an older model due to $$$. And I'll more than likely get those two lenses then, the 35 and 50. What models do you suggest? Zeiss? Leica? Elmarrit? Summicron? please excuse my spelling if it's wrong.
We should dance around old model, then. But in general, Leica seems to be unbeatable on how it understands the optics of lenses. As result, you could get not only old Leitz lens working on M8 and younger, but almost any RF (LTM and M) mount lens. Something as extreme as Jupiter-12 FSU 35 2.8 lens will works and it cost ... 45$ USD, plus 20$+ adapter. Even more, Industar-61 L/D 55 2.8 costs like 20$ USD and some are comparing it to Elmar 50 2.8 by results...
On Leitz side, basically all M lenses will do. As long as they are clean. It is major issue with old Leitz lenses. Fog and fungus. But anything from 50 Collapsible Cron and younger will do and anything from Summaron 35 2.8 and younger will do.
On modern side it doesn't have to be Zeiss. Same factory makes Voigtlander brand. Color Skopar 35 2.5 is always clean lens and it costs 250$ and more. On 50mm Zeiss ZM Planar is safest bet for modern lens and Voigtalnder 50 1.5 will do almost everything as good as Planar, plus sharp f1.5 with some purple fringing.
For old M Leica look for M-E. They are as young as 2015. It is absolutely the same as M9, just no (useless) frame lines switch. Clean ISO for color ends at 640. BW is film like between ISO1600 and 2500.
If you will need clean pictures indoors, you will need TTL Leica (Meitz with Leica TTL) flash.
So, for "old" digtial M like M9 and M-E, plus two clean, non Leica 35,50 lenses and little Leica TTL flash it will be around 4K$, used. Plus, at least one spare battery. Non-Leica 25$ works, but freeze from time to time. Made in same China, but Leica labeled battery is around 100$.
Be aware, what most likely, if going M route after 5D, L then first impression is going to be... "it sucks"... And it might take months before it will grow on you.
On top of it, Leica service is very expensive and slow comparing to Canon service. M9 are still in full service by Leica. M8 are not.