Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 17 Mar 2006 (Friday) 18:07
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Background Paper???

 
Ruffneck
Member
164 posts
Joined Jul 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
     
Mar 17, 2006 18:07 |  #1

Quick question for the group...where do you typically purchase your paper from, what sizes do you typically purchase, what colors do you recommend?


Canon 20D & 60D, Canon70-200mm L 4.0, Canon 17-40mm L 4.0, Canon 24-70 L, 2.8, Canon 28-135mm IS, Canon 85mm f1.8, Canon 100mm Portrait Lense, Tamron 17-50 VC, Sigma 15-70mm 2.8-4 HSM, Canon Speedlite 580Ex, Canon Speedlite 420Ex, 3 AB800's, ...and a whole host of other odds and ends!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Inspired ­ Photography
Goldmember
Avatar
2,096 posts
Joined Jun 2005
Location: Central Coast, NSW, Australia
     
Mar 17, 2006 18:30 |  #2

While i am in Australia, so I can't help with location, but...

I usually buy 2.7 x 11m rolls (11' x 37') rolls. There are half width rolls, but i find them a little useless for most things except head & shoulders portraits, so it is worth getting the wider ones.

First place to start with colours is usually a white and a black so you can have a nice contrasty background. Then you can add nice colours like a blue or green, purple, red, grey... well you get the idea.

Hope this helps.

Rob


Robert Bell - Inspired Photography (formerly "Inspired Graphix" [and "Shooter-Boy" a long time ago])
Inspired Photography (external link)
email: info@inspiredphotograp​hy.net.au (external link) (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bolantej
Goldmember
3,780 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Mar 2005
Location: CAlifornia
     
Mar 17, 2006 18:32 |  #3

I would get at least a 9 foot wide roll. it is hard trying to shoot with limited width. I started with white, but a black roll is next. i like to buy local becasue it's only about $50 USD and there's no shipping and waiting.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Titus213
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
19,403 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 36
Joined Feb 2005
Location: Kalama, WA USA
     
Mar 17, 2006 19:27 |  #4

I agree with bolantej. I think ours is 10 feet wide. All we have used is white in paper and it was $50 locally. That turned out to be the same price as online after shipping...


Dave
Perspiring photographer.
Visit NorwoodPhotos.comexternal link

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ruffneck
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
164 posts
Joined Jul 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
     
Mar 17, 2006 21:35 |  #5

Thanks for the great advice. I gotta tell you though..I was looking at white paper online and white apparently comes in about 22 different shades. Is there that big of a difference in the color or will a custom white balance take care of it?


Canon 20D & 60D, Canon70-200mm L 4.0, Canon 17-40mm L 4.0, Canon 24-70 L, 2.8, Canon 28-135mm IS, Canon 85mm f1.8, Canon 100mm Portrait Lense, Tamron 17-50 VC, Sigma 15-70mm 2.8-4 HSM, Canon Speedlite 580Ex, Canon Speedlite 420Ex, 3 AB800's, ...and a whole host of other odds and ends!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DSMITH131
Senior Member
Avatar
850 posts
Joined Jan 2005
Location: Lexington NC
     
Mar 17, 2006 22:31 |  #6

Here
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …x=20&Submit.y=9​&Submit=Go (external link)


Daniel W. Smith Photography (external link)
Mayhem (external link)
Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Inspired ­ Photography
Goldmember
Avatar
2,096 posts
Joined Jun 2005
Location: Central Coast, NSW, Australia
     
Mar 17, 2006 23:50 as a reply to  @ DSMITH131's post |  #7

22 shades of white??

As long as you expose it about 1-2stops above your subject you aren't going to see it anyway. Just go for an Arctic white, or something like that. As long as it doesn't say eggshell or something you should be fine.

You don't want to have to custom white balance you background, as you would compromise your subject. Get the background right so you can focus on your model.

There about 55 colours in the Colorama range alone, so there IS alot of choice out there.
You can usually request swatch books for companies that do alot of paper colours, so that might be worthwhile.

Rob


Robert Bell - Inspired Photography (formerly "Inspired Graphix" [and "Shooter-Boy" a long time ago])
Inspired Photography (external link)
email: info@inspiredphotograp​hy.net.au (external link) (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mjordan
Goldmember
Avatar
1,339 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Apr 2002
Location: Hillsboro, OR
     
Mar 18, 2006 11:02 |  #8

Of the two different white papers that Savage puts out, their brightest is called Super White and I believe this uses a coating to give it it's bright white. They also have a White paper. For most portrait type work, using a white paper that has brighterns added is not a good choice because of the reflective properties of the paper.

I've been buying Savage seamless paper for years and it's good stuff. The other company that makes paper that I'm aware of is Superior Paper at http://www.superspec.c​om …1/pages/seamles​sindex.htm (external link)
They have a lot of different papers that look pretty neat and I would like to try out one of these days. B&H doesn't sale Superior seamless paper though and I've not found it local.

When you order the 107" paper, UPS and Fed-X charge more because they consider it over sized. It us to cost about $18 for 3rd day Fed-X but that was before gas prices doubled, so I don't know what they are charging now. As the others have said, if you can find it local, it might be the same cost or close to it.

Mike


Hillsboro, OR
Canon 1DMKII and lots of "L"
http://www.sitnprettyp​hoto.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Kostyanych
Senior Member
449 posts
Joined Jan 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
     
Mar 19, 2006 07:48 as a reply to  @ Inspired Photography's post |  #9

Shooter-boy wrote:
While i am in Australia, so I can't help with location, but...

By the way Rob... :) Where do you buy these things in Australia? :)

I am going to make some search through the forum and may be to create some new topics to find out where people buy photographic stuff in Australia. :)


Canon 7D | EF-S 10-22 F/3.5-4.5 | EF 24-105 mm F/4L IS USM | EF 70-200 F/2.8L IS USM | EF 50 mm F/1.4 USM | EF 85 mm F/1.8 USM | 580EX II| TC-80N3 | Gitzo G2220 tripod | Manfrotto 329RC4 head | Dynatran AT-CF992 tripod | Newton Bracket Di100FR2 | 2 x POTN Op-Tech Strap | 4 x Hensel Integra 500 Pro | 2 x PW Plus II | Sekonic L-758D | Dynatran AS-014-2

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
llaamaboy
Member
Avatar
148 posts
Joined Mar 2006
Location: California
     
Mar 19, 2006 08:09 as a reply to  @ Kostyanych's post |  #10

A different opinion here ... :D

I found paper a waste and expensive. The lighter ones can only be used once and I was spending as much time playing with the dang backgrounds as I was developing posing ideas. Not to mention they absolutly dictate the floor in your camera room.

Have you thought of fabric or painted fabric?
Do you know the track systems hospitals use for their privacy certains? We purchased a lot of that and built a system of hanging fabic which could be moved in and out at will. We could easily choose between 12 different backgrounds. And we could hang any fabric we wanted to make up any combo of the 12 choosable backgrounds. Just to keep things fresh, my assitants could change any 4 of the 12 at any time just to challenge me to work them in. It was fun. :D


Llaamaboy
5D, 24-105L,
180mm f/3.5L Macro
6 MP Pentax Optio WPi
"We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not going to discuss it with the employees." (Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mjordan
Goldmember
Avatar
1,339 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Apr 2002
Location: Hillsboro, OR
     
Mar 19, 2006 20:47 |  #11

Llaamaboy, I've not heard a lot of people that have had problems with seamless paper. The stuff is pretty tuff and as long as you don't let it get away from you when unrolling, works pretty good. I've shot a lot of dogs on seamless and even with them jumping up and down onto the platform it covered or back and forth when I had it on the floor, it didn't tear very often. When it did, I just tear off the 4 feet or so of paper on the floor and pulled down some more. I've yet to go through a whole 12 yard roll of any one color (although I'm close on my gray and blue rolls). And I know if it can take abuse by dogs, it should be able to stand up to most people without problems.

Seamless paper has some advantages over cloth... for one, it is smooth and wrinkle free, even when you iron them, most muslins are going to show texture. And with a smooth background, you don't have to be so careful about throwing it out of focus as you do with muslin at times. Also, the way it reflects light is different. There are more colors to choose from, including gradiant colors and chrome key colors.

Both paper and cloth have their places, pros and cons. I wouldn't say paper was a waste though. Far from it in a lot of situations.

Mike


Hillsboro, OR
Canon 1DMKII and lots of "L"
http://www.sitnprettyp​hoto.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
llaamaboy
Member
Avatar
148 posts
Joined Mar 2006
Location: California
     
Mar 19, 2006 21:25 as a reply to  @ mjordan's post |  #12

mjordan wrote:
Llaamaboy, I've not heard a lot of people that have had problems with seamless paper. ... Both paper and cloth have their places, pros and cons. I wouldn't say paper was a waste though. Far from it in a lot of situations. Mike

Fair enough and nicely stated. :D


Llaamaboy
5D, 24-105L,
180mm f/3.5L Macro
6 MP Pentax Optio WPi
"We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not going to discuss it with the employees." (Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ruffneck
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
164 posts
Joined Jul 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
     
Mar 19, 2006 22:13 |  #13

For me..I already have a very large piece of Muslin. It is an off white in color and no matter what I do it tends to show the texture in photographs (room size prevents me from achieving great bokeh). It was one of the reasons that I was looking at paper as an alternative.


Canon 20D & 60D, Canon70-200mm L 4.0, Canon 17-40mm L 4.0, Canon 24-70 L, 2.8, Canon 28-135mm IS, Canon 85mm f1.8, Canon 100mm Portrait Lense, Tamron 17-50 VC, Sigma 15-70mm 2.8-4 HSM, Canon Speedlite 580Ex, Canon Speedlite 420Ex, 3 AB800's, ...and a whole host of other odds and ends!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

3,573 views & 0 likes for this thread, 8 members have posted to it.
Background Paper???
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1049 guests, 107 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.