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Nov 13, 2017 07:16 |  #16

B&W processing is interesting. I have used the Nik filters, they are quite good. Here are other ways I have tried over the years before acquiring Nik tools.

Top left = original color
Top right = Levels (bring the ends in a just a bit, slide the middle to the right a bit, USM for sharpening, USM for contrast)
Bottom left = simply desaturating to create the B&W
Bottom right = Photoshop's black and white tool and moved different colors around to get the color I wanted, then USM sharpening

I use Nik now, much better looking and more configurations. :)

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Nov 13, 2017 07:28 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #17

That's a great experiment.

Her skin has a sort of matte look in the simple desat picture.


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That's a great experiment.

Her skin has a sort of matte look in the simple desat picture.

You can use the desaturate option, but you have to follow up with some dup layers, and lighten/overlay with some leveling and USM for contrast. Chet did say that there would be post processing beyond just desaturation. Just desaturating is the worst option, there has to be more followup work to use it.

I really do like this version (left side) after the work, but the Nik tools get you here much faster.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:35 |  #19

I once did a fairly long post regarding this, but I think just the four example images will tell the story.

It would have been better if I had something with the blue and the red at the exact same level, but it's a real world image, and is close enough.

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Straight desaturation. The red and the blue are very close in tone.

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Using a tool that allows colour mixing, first lets make the blue channel very dark, and the red channel very light.

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And now lets reverse it, and make the red dark, and the blue light.

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By being able to manipulate many channels it is usually possible to ensure that you can maintain contrast between different colours, even when the brightnesses are identical. If you simply desaturate then there is no method where you could change the level of one colour compared to another, where the original levels were the same.

Oh generally it is much harder to bring the blue channel up than the red. In colour digital sensors it is usual to need to push the blue signal by a significant amount during the WB process, so then adding even more boost to the blue tends to add a lot of noise very quickly. The blue was quite a bit darker to start with too.

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