So if we are done with LR, whats our choices?

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18476853
I'm all Capture One now, after many years of migrating back and forth through many other options.

ACDSee Ultimate is now a fully fledged RAW developer as well, but there are better RAW tools. It is an EXCELLENT "D.A.M." (digital asset manager)

I used to recommend (and use!) Bibble/Corel Aftershot, but the more Corel does to what was a wonderful tool that they bought, the more they seem to break it It won't even run on my current workstation without crashing every 5 minutes or so.

C1 has some oddities in the batch processing gui that I still find a little less than intuitive, but the other day I wanted to make 1/2 sized jpegs from a huge pile of raw files, and only do minor tweeks to a small percentage along the way, crops etc,. and the process was easier and much faster than with any other tool I have used. So once you get a handle on the output, it is FAST and fluid to use.

How is C1 as a digital asset manager these days? I used C1 for years but didn't like version 7 I think and would definitely like to give it another go.

If it could fully replace LR, the only downside is recreating my library. That and I still imagine I'll want Photoshop so I'd probably wind up on the hook for both.

I'd use C1 again without its library features if I could but I vaguely recall them being obtrusive in version 7.

Colorblinded wrote in post #18477199
How is C1 as a digital asset manager these days? I used C1 for years but didn't like version 7 I think and would definitely like to give it another go.

If it could fully replace LR, the only downside is recreating my library. That and I still imagine I'll want Photoshop so I'd probably wind up on the hook for both.

I'd use C1 again without its library features if I could but I vaguely recall them being obtrusive in version 7.

If you're willing to spend an hour watching a detailed webinar, Capture One's youtube channel has a detailed look at their sessions and catalogs. Sessions seem really powerful to me. (Caveat: not - yet - a C1Pro user)

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=k6sm9bQQXf0

But LR CC is only $9 a month.
That's only around $120 per year for good software.

If it helps you get to the end of the race why not pay a small fee for it ?

You use your cellphone to communicate and pay monthly fee for spectrum use. It's the same thing.

Eiro wrote in post #18477320
But LR CC is only $9 a month.
That's only around $120 per year for good software.

If it helps you get to the end of the race why not pay a small fee for it ?

You use your cellphone to communicate and pay monthly fee for spectrum use. It's the same thing.

This discussion is about what to switch to, not why to switch. That argument's been rehashed over the internet a million times the last few days.

As a hobbyist, I abandoned LR5 for Adobe CC. I rarely used Photoshop as most things I need I can do in ON1, albeit Photoshop is by far a better tool. I mostly use LR for RAW editing and ON1 for layers and effects. Today, I cancelled my Adobe CC subscription and upgraded LR5 to LR6. I will stick to LR6 and ON1.

I think ON1 is committed to their user base, has a fine but not perfect product, and is constantly trying to improve it. That all works for me.

Subscribed

Plan A: Macphun products Luminar and Aurora with the DAM that is to be introduced in early 2018.
Plan B: On1 Photo RAW, especially if they bother to put a an import feature in the Browser module.

I went with On1 last Dec so I could have a software with the newest cameras. I have cs6 and swore a bood oath to never go CC. But none of the versions got the cameras and or lenses I tried to use so So I have never used it. I see a lot of people talking Capture one now, I might give that one a go
Gary

I will be moving to Capture One when Adobe kills Lightroom classic (if not sooner).

I like on one raw.

Eiro wrote in post #18477320
But LR CC is only $9 a month.
That's only around $120 per year for good software.

If it helps you get to the end of the race why not pay a small fee for it ?

You use your cellphone to communicate and pay monthly fee for spectrum use. It's the same thing.

You're killing me Eiro.......you're killing me.........

I learned something new for Mac users today. The "Preview" application can convert RAW photos to Tiff. So open a folder in "Preview", export to Tiff, and develop in whatever application you see fit (Do I hear the word FREEDOM?). For those with LR6 permanent licenses no problem when a new camera/sensor comes out. The O/S will likely update fairly soon for free and you'll still be able to use LR6.

I suspect there is a similar competing application in Win10, but won't know until I check at work tomorrow. I truly dislike Win10 so don't have a copy in the house.

rdalrt wrote in post #18477842
I will be moving to Capture One when Adobe kills Lightroom classic (if not sooner).

Yep, I'm taking a good hard look at Luminar. Good products both. I suspect classic will be around for a long time, but I don't want to get dependent on a catalog.

Eiro wrote in post #18477320
But LR CC is only $9 a month.
That's only around $120 per year for good software.

If it helps you get to the end of the race why not pay a small fee for it ?

You use your cellphone to communicate and pay monthly fee for spectrum use. It's the same thing.

If you buy a storage shed and put it on your property, should you have to pay a monthly fee to use it? If you rent a storage unit on someone else's property, then yes you pay a periodic fee. That is the difference...

People want to buy once and own a copy of software and run it on their own system/computing power, and not have to go to the cloud all the time time for licensing checks, and other pseudo-real-time stuff that might be in the cloud, thus they don't want a monthly fee model.

If everyone allows these to go through, within a small number of years, we won't own anything, and all of our income will be going to all these monthly,quarterly and annual fees. One has to take a stand somewhere, and if Adobe is hurt enough, they will most likely offer a different option, more expensive than LR6, but less than a ongoing fee.

Eiro wrote in post #18477320
But LR CC is only $9 a month.
That's only around $120 per year for good software.

If it helps you get to the end of the race why not pay a small fee for it ?

You use your cellphone to communicate and pay monthly fee for spectrum use. It's the same thing.

Because there are other options equal to or better than LR for much less $$. DPP4 as a raw converter has really improved over the last couple versions and at times does a much better job with the conversion than some others, and the cost is nothing. ON1 is also a outstanding produce and right now DxO is giving away free OpticsPro11 for free.