Sony a7R III

Looks to me like you just need better light and GET CLOSER to those small birds.

Will in Tejas wrote in post #18643419
This is with the 1.4 and the lens looks pretty sharp here.

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Looks sharp and noise looks good too

ETS wrote in post #18643423
Looks to me like you just need better light and GET CLOSER to those small birds.

Well one reason I bought this camera is the great low light performance it is said to possess. I agree on the get closer.

xpfloyd wrote in post #18643431
Looks sharp and noise looks good too

Thanks Eddie.

Will in Tejas wrote in post #18643450
Well one reason I bought this camera is the great low light performance it is said to possess. I agree on the get closer.

Thanks Eddie.

Yes, but even with good low light performance you still need to make sure your light source is directly hitting on the bird and that the background light is not brighter than that.

ETS wrote in post #18643488
Yes, but even with good low light performance you still need to make sure your light source is directly hitting on the bird and that the background light is not brighter than that.

Agreed but I've been able to cheat it abit using Canon but we're also talking 20-24 mp in the Canon bodies.

Will in Tejas wrote in post #18643509
Agreed but I've been able to cheat it abit using Canon but we're also talking 20-24 mp in the Canon bodies.

if you have you're older body still, I think you should do a proper test.

On a tripod, I've found the older 6D to be noticeably inferior when files compared to the Sony. I tested simply on a tripod, the 70-200mkii, and an electric pole far way.

Focused wide open, stopped down to f8, the Canon was much softer, when equalized in size. This type of testing will get rid of the guesswork.

My impression is that testing with long lenses becomes increasingly difficult when hard crops and live subjects are involved.

Did you check the raws I sent Will?

xpfloyd wrote in post #18643655
Did you check the raws I sent Will?

Yes and thanks again for sending them. I want to replicate the settings to see what happens.

I still have a 7DmkII body but not a single Canon lens at the moment.

Eddie thanks for giving me something to compare to. Thanks to all that answered questions and offered suggestions. Talley these were with the FE 100-400. I removed the 1.4 x for these.

I took these a little while ago. I started at ISO 100 and ended at 3200 in the sun and 6400 in the shadows of the porch. I think I'm good. I did learn something from this which is 0 the sharpening Lightroom and the fact that this noise has to be dealt with differently due to the 42 mp the camera puts out. Anyway a shot in the sun, 3200 and shot in the shadows/shade, 6400. I did nothing to these except resize for posting here.

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Is there a thread here anywhere (I can't find one) that speaks to using an adapted Tamron or Sigma 150-600 with the RIII? I just purchased a Tammy G2 and put it on and it works great except for the noise it makes and doesn't stop without turning off the camera. I would like to read the experiences of others. Thanks

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On my screen Bill, I'm honestly not seeing objectionable noise. On the finch image I barely see any noise in the green area, and none on the bird...certainly not objectionable.

Lame-Duck wrote in post #18650092
On my screen Bill, I'm honestly not seeing objectionable noise. On the finch image I barely see any noise in the green area, and none on the bird...certainly not objectionable.

Thanks Mike. Actually I'm talking about noise from the lens or camera, not sure which. Like a motor running.

Will in Tejas wrote in post #18650094
Thanks Mike. Actually I'm talking about noise from the lens or camera, not sure which. Like a motor running.

Ahhhhhhh...sorry about that, I had it all wrong. I'm not hearing any noise from your lens and I'm sure not seeing any objectionable noise on my screen.