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Oct 31, 2017 14:08 as a reply to  @ post 18485597 |  #31

So if you send it to Photoshop anyway. Why switch from LR? You are still paying the same monthly price?

Capture One and LR are pretty much the same with some cosmetic differences?


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Oct 31, 2017 15:01 |  #32

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So if you send it to Photoshop anyway. Why switch from LR? You are still paying the same monthly price?

Capture One and LR are pretty much the same with some cosmetic differences?

I use CS6, so no monthly payment for me.

C1 is more advanced in may ways then Lr. It is, however, more difficult to learn.


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Oct 31, 2017 17:31 |  #33

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Yeah the variants took a bit of getting used to. Scatterbrained said structure that I assume is the sharpening between capture and export. I called it detail. I found clarity in there. I worked it and then worked LR to match. LR you can do it in the detail tab because for export you get 3 choices. For what it is worth I got these. i did not touch the colour with either and my LR defaults were applied. I did like Capture quite a bit.

For what it is worth. First one is Capture, second is LR.


At least the color rendition is quite similar. I have just started playing with DxO vs. LR and find DxO is pretty different 'right out of the box'. I will continue playing with it, to see just what needs tweaking in DxO to look more similar to LR (with Vibrance and Saturation being the only things adjusted in LR for the test!)

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Oct 31, 2017 18:23 |  #34

LR was set to Camera Standard and some of why personal tweaks that auto apply. Not big changes. I like it in between the red skin tones of DPP and yellows of Adobe. Capture was there right away.


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Nov 01, 2017 10:58 |  #35

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I downloaded the free trial again but have not installed it yet. We have to step out for a while.

You got me curios about this. Thanks a lot :-) I was there but only adjusted the Clarity. So I will hunt for the video that explains this however if you like you could help me with it. What does it do when I move it to the left or right?


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Nov 01, 2017 13:04 |  #36

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I downloaded the free trial again but have not installed it yet. We have to step out for a while.

You got me curios about this. Thanks a lot :-) I was there but only adjusted the Clarity. So I will hunt for the video that explains this however if you like you could help me with it. What does it do when I move it to the left or right?

I made a sample of comparison images. If you push structure and pull clarity, you can even pull off a subtle Orton effect right in C1.

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Nov 01, 2017 13:14 |  #39

^^ Been using C1 for a few months now, and didnt even try those tricks, very cool.

to answer TS, learning curve is very steep, transition is very difficult, but hell it's totally worth it IMO. I just feel so much better about color control on any subject.

the adjustment layers are so much better organized, 100% zooming is a million times faster to check focus, and the customization factor is very high. Such a good raw editor that I dont feel the need to revisit LR...... ever.

Just have to consider that the program is very complex, and you have to set it up the way you do things. Treat it as something entirely different, and you'll be better off. If I had the same mentality going into the Sony world, I probably would have switched much sooner. There's a method to the madness.


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Nov 01, 2017 13:19 |  #40

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... 100% zooming is a million times faster to check focus, and the customization factor is very high. Such a good raw editor that I dont feel the need to revisit LR ...

The loupe tool alone is worth its weight in bitcoin.

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Thanks for the work you did. I was not sure if it would be that noticeable. Like you said it should be part of the sharpening tool kit.


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Dec 26, 2017 20:03 |  #42

I just got the trial version of C1 today. I imported my lightroom catalog but it only imported 199 out of 10,000 photos. I've tried it a couple times and get the same result. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I'm using Lightroomm CC.

I've pulled a couple images into C1 individually. Does C1 create a TIFF when I send an image from C1 to Photoshop?




  
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I LOVE Capture One Pro. I think it works really, really well with Nikon RAW files. The quality of the conversion is night and day comparing to Nikon's own raw editor and Capture One. The import process isn't automatic and not that intuitive. You have to first create a new session. Otherwise, the photos would get imported to your LAST open session. If you don't create a new session every time, C1 internal database can get too big. When I first started using it, the database file got corrupted. I lost all of my raw editing settings and I was using just ONE session..hehehehe.. Nowadays, I create a new session every time. All of the save file folders and directory paths aren't automatic either. You have to tell it where to import the files too. The color balance feature isn't that great. I use CC for that instead. The batch process on Capture One is very, very powerful and FAST. The highlight recovery feature is just mind blowing. My highlight could be close to 2 stops clipping to the right. Capture One can recover details from it!!!!


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Dec 27, 2017 02:05 |  #44

I also just got the trial version today and take my first steps around the program. Quite intimidating - but I am redoing a small batch of pictures that I edited with LR last week and see what the result will be with Capture One.
Thank you all for your insights - gave me the push to take on this endeavor.


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One of my biggest reasons for wanting to try C1 was highlight recovery, I've always had trouble with whites in Lightroom and ACR, and I've seen some dratamatic examples of highlight/white recovery with C1. After a little experimentation with C1 I am unable to see any dramatic improvement. The C1 tools are very different than LR/ACR, so I may be missing something.

Two negatives strike me so far - I miss the adjustment brush and graduated filter in LR. And I do NOT like the way C1 creates a TIFF file every time I send an image to Photoshop.

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