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Dec 02, 2017 22:22 |  #1

Scroll up a little to the top.

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Dec 02, 2017 23:04 |  #2

Um, halfway into the video and I simply can't take advice from a guy with that hair!

Just. Can't. Watch. Any. Longer.

Parted down the middle, I mean, that's just the icing, but seriously? Must live alone, NO ONE would let him leave the house looking like that.

Sorry. :)

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OK, I tried again. I'm not sure what it is that it does. Looked at the interactive demo as well. It just seems like two exposures, one with and one without the strobe firing, put into layers then you can "paint" the light using the two layers. So what am I missing?


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Dec 02, 2017 23:35 |  #3

Who is investing? Good question. My guess is, "Nobody with any sense."


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Dec 02, 2017 23:44 |  #4

1. I have more light modifiers now than I know what to do with and wished that I had my money back on at least 3/4 of them.

2. I have a pretty good idea most of the time of what I want my lighting to look like, don't really need to turn lighting "ON" or "OFF" after I take the picture.

3. If I need to tweak my lighting after I have taken the image, I have found that Lightroom and Photoshop are more than adequate tools for the task.

4. The Alt/Mask feature of the AD600 gives me all the creative lighting options I'll ever need.

5. I already invested with Gary Fong, see the last part of #1.


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Dec 03, 2017 00:11 |  #5

That did not take long. I could hardly wait for the funny comments :lol:


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Dec 03, 2017 00:29 |  #6

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18509258 (external link)
Um, halfway into the video and I simply can't take advice from a guy with that hair!

Just. Can't. Watch. Any. Longer.

Parted down the middle, I mean, that's just the icing, but seriously? Must live alone, NO ONE would let him leave the house looking like that.

Sorry. :)

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OK, I tried again. I'm not sure what it is that it does. Looked at the interactive demo as well. It just seems like two exposures, one with and one without the strobe firing, put into layers then you can "paint" the light using the two layers. So what am I missing?

Nothing expect it looks like another GF wannabe. I thought the investing part would raise some eyebrows.


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Dec 03, 2017 00:58 |  #7

Singed my eyebrows...


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What if all this can be done without needing the strobes at all? The way computational & AI photography is going, it won't surprise me. Camera companies are still dinosaurs in lot of areas.


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Dec 03, 2017 08:39 |  #9

bobbyz wrote in post #18509433 (external link)
What if all this can be done without needing the strobes at all? The way computational & AI photography is going, it won't surprise me. Camera companies are still dinosaurs in lot of areas.

Right. Their next product will correct those photos you snapped with the lens cap on.


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Dec 03, 2017 08:50 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #10

Wasn't talking about them.:)


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Dec 03, 2017 08:50 |  #11

Yep. A responce on another site.

The whole tone of the Kickstarter, however, makes it sound like their modifiers are magic:

"These revolutionary modifiers let you change the light AFTER the image has been captured."

But further on, they describe how it works in a little more detail:

"Once the RAW images are captured they pass through the Isolite converter and a new RAW file (DNG) is generated after lighting has been adjusted. This can be done multiple times, and you would have several RAW files, of the same shot, each with different lighting. You may then process each with your favorite RAW processor."

So it really is a software process, despite them trying to sell it on the modifiers. I'm interested, but I'd like to see a little more truth in advertising.


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Dec 03, 2017 09:11 |  #12

Truth? The truth is that you can't add detail where the original didn't capture any. Raise the exposure all you want; nothing times anything is still nothing.


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Dec 03, 2017 09:12 |  #13

digital paradise wrote in post #18509445 (external link)
So it really is a software process, despite them trying to sell it on the modifiers. I'm interested, but I'd like to see a little more truth in advertising.[/I]

Yes but what allows the software to do that? He's basically used a bunch of coloured gels so the software can easily alter the pictures as shown, it's not a joke but it's not a new idea either and it has some very obvious downsides (such as being B&W etc).

I wouldn't have a problem with it if not for the snake oil pitch in the video trying to make it look magical.




  
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Dec 03, 2017 09:16 |  #14

I think the main take-away here is that this (whatever it is) can't do anything that can't already be done, in software most of us already own, and already know how to use. I use LR6. The adjustment brush: exposure does the same thing.


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Yes but what allows the software to do that? He's basically used a bunch of coloured gels so the software can easily alter the pictures as shown, it's not a joke but it's not a new idea either and it has some very obvious downsides (such as being B&W etc).

I wouldn't have a problem with it if not for the snake oil pitch in the video trying to make it look magical.

Actually, the b&w is the only thing I liked about them.



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