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To Drone or Not to Drone, That is the Question.

 
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Dec 14, 2017 16:08 as a reply to  @ post 18517991 |  #16

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Dec 14, 2017 16:16 |  #17

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Dec 14, 2017 16:33 |  #18

Who actually calls the airports everytime they want to fly their drone? It looks like I'd have to clear every flight with an ATC somewhere here in socal. -?


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Dec 14, 2017 18:25 |  #19

My local ATC got tired of hearing from me every day and said if I'm flying under 400ft not to call but to watch out for helos. Have not called them in 3 years, but have also not had any close calls or any other type of issue.

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Dec 15, 2017 08:53 |  #20

Scatterbrained wrote in post #18518016 (external link)
Who actually calls the airports everytime they want to fly their drone? It looks like I'd have to clear every flight with an ATC somewhere here in socal. -?

My wife does when shooting real estate, though some have recently started to let you submit your flight plan electronically if you know in advance where you're going to fly.


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Dec 15, 2017 20:02 |  #21

Scatterbrained wrote in post #18518016 (external link)
Who actually calls the airports everytime they want to fly their drone? It looks like I'd have to clear every flight with an ATC somewhere here in socal. -?

Unfortunately, I live just over two miles from an Air Force Base, so I call. The last few Sundays that I flew from home, when I called, no one answered. I left messages. On one side of my property, I am just outside of the call zone of a hospital heliport, so I fly from there.




  
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Dec 17, 2017 11:14 |  #22

Well, my wife put an end to the discussion yesterday. She ordered the P4P+ Pro Bundle kit from Adorama, along with prop guards, a LowePro DroneGuard Pro 450 backpack, and the Polar Pro Cinema Filter kit, then she called me to make sure that was what I was looking at. :-D I guess I'll have to find a use for it now. ;-)a


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Dec 17, 2017 11:28 |  #23

Nice, you'll get even better quality images and video from the P4P in exchange for some convenience of carrying and storing it. There's a Phantom Pilots Forum (external link) which should be very helpful in familiarizing yourself with all of the features and answer any questions you may have. It should be easy enough to learn, but if you've never flown a drone before you might want to pick up one of those little $40 micro quads to familiarize yourself with the controls of flying a drone, much better to crash that than your thousand dollar P4P.

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Dec 17, 2017 12:03 |  #24

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Well, therein lies the rub, I have no interest in video, only stills . . .

I, also, would only be interested in stills.

The concern I have is with image quality.

If I got a drone, I would want to take still pictures that are every bit as good, technically, as the images that I take with my 1D4. . Actually, I'd want even better images, because I am no longer satisfied with 1D4 files when making big 48" by 32" prints or when shooting in extremely low light.

So I would want the drone to take stills with something like a 5D4 or a 5Ds. . Is this even possible? . I really have no interest in images that are not in this class, as far as pixel-peeping technical quality is concerned. . Can affordable drones in the $700 range support this class of cameras?

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Dec 17, 2017 14:32 |  #25

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Nice, you'll get even better quality images and video from the P4P in exchange for some convenience of carrying and storing it. There's a Phantom Pilots Forum (external link) which should be very helpful in familiarizing yourself with all of the features and answer any questions you may have. It should be easy enough to learn, but if you've never flown a drone before you might want to pick up one of those little $40 micro quads to familiarize yourself with the controls of flying a drone, much better to crash that than your thousand dollar P4P.

Enjoy and make sure to share some photos here once you get to fly it!

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That's not a bad idea. I may pick up a cheap quadcopter while we're out today.


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Dec 17, 2017 14:38 |  #26

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Can affordable drones in the $700 range support this class of cameras?

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I doubt it, the weight alone, and bulk volume of the camera with a lens is not going to go well with an entry level drone. More like a $4k~6k professional drone with a $1k gimbal system to handle the dSLR. DJI makes this stuff.

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Dec 17, 2017 14:46 |  #27

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I, also, would only be interested in stills.

The concern I have is with image quality.

If I got a drone, I would want to take still pictures that are every bit as good, technically, as the images that I take with my 1D4. . Actually, I'd want even better images, because I am no longer satisfied with 1D4 files when making big 48" by 32" prints or when shooting in extremely low light.

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The Phantom 4 pro uses a 1" Sony sensor, so it's good as far as drones go. To get better than that you've got to drop some real cash.

IQ is part of what has kept me from making the leap sooner. Of course, if money were no object I'd buy an octocopter and gimbal that could handle my A7RII.


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Dec 17, 2017 17:34 |  #28

To shoot DSLR quality stills you'd need something like an Inspire 2 or a custom rig. However, you're then not only risking many thousands of dollars flying it, but if it crashes into something or someone it's going to do significant damage. More headache than I'd want as a hobbyist, but I could see upgrading if it became a major part of my business.

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Dec 17, 2017 21:29 |  #29

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The Phantom 4 pro uses a 1" Sony sensor, so it's good as far as drones go.

I'm thinking that that sensor itself would probably be adequate for most usages.

It looks like all of those Phantom 4 Pros come with a fixed lens of just 24mm focal length. . This would not be adequate at all.

For the kind of frame-filling portraits I would want, at 24mm, the drone would have to be just 3 or 4 feet away from the animal's head. . Believe me, no wild deer or bear is going to tolerate a drone buzzing right in front of its face - that would scare the critter and it'd run off. . And to get frame-filling portraits of smaller animals, such as birds or squirrels, at 24mm you'd have to have the drone just inches away from the subject. . So I'm just not seeing how today's technology would allow me to get the kind of photos I want from a drone.

I think we still have a long, long way to go before drones and drone cameras are capable of doing the things that I want them to be able to do. . So, I guess the answer to your original question is "not to drone".

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Dec 27, 2017 10:20 |  #30

My 3DR from yesterday. I'm also a pilot, therefore sensitive to how so many owners ignore altitude limits....


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