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Jan 17, 2018 10:23 |  #1

Hello all, not sure if the links to these videos have been posted already, so if they were, I apologize.

Dustin Abbot recently did an 85mm showdown which included the new Canon 85 f1.4 against offerings from Tamron, Sigma, Zeiss Otis.

This was great information for me since I was tossing around the idea of upgrading to the new Canon 85mm f1.4 from my current Tamron 85mm f1.8. Needless to say, based on these 2 videos, my wallet will stay firmly in my pocket ! The Tamron is basically tied for second with the Sigma while the Canon finished last. Not to say it's a bad lens, just that it doesn't check as many boxes. (value, sharpness, contrast,CA, etc...)

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85mm Showdown: Canon | Sigma | Tamron | Zeiss | Part 1: Resolution

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85mm Showdown: Canon | Sigma | Tamron | Zeiss | Part 2: Rendering

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=G2C3911nGY4 (external link)


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Jan 17, 2018 15:28 |  #2

Yeah, good stuff but for me in the end I went with the Canon for 2 reasons: IS was the main thing, I have a 50, 100 & 135 so I don't really need the 85 but none of my other lenses have IS and my hands aren't as steady as they should be. Second thing is I've never seen such amazing bokeh as on my Canon 135 F2 (it looks like an impressionist painting) so I'm hoping this one is similar, I haven't had a chance to shoot with it yet. I was this close to getting the Sigma, have the 20 F1.4 and it's outstanding but in the end it was the IS.
So, I really can't justify spending this much but I always find a way to rationalize these things and my thought process was on my next wedding I'm going to limit myself to 2 lenses: the 20 & 85, which on my 70D are effectively 32 & 135 mm and on the 6D obviously they're their native focal length so I have pretty much all my needs covered and all at F1.4. Sounds good on paper, time will tell.
But yeah, it's amazing how close these lens were in the test you really can't go wrong. Thanks for posting!




  
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Jan 18, 2018 06:45 as a reply to  @ JerseyJoeBoca's post |  #3

The Tamron 85mm also has vibration control (VC) and it's quite good. :-)


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Jan 18, 2018 07:12 |  #4

I took from that video series that the Sigma is the one to get for a studio/portrait shooter, and not the Tamron.

If you need VC, then you just have to decide whether the Tamron at 1/2 the cost but being a bit slower and rendering is a little worse is better than the Canon which is a brighter lens and a bit faster, but more costly.

It is nice to see so many options though, but I still have a fondness for the 85L, just a wonderful tool. Should have never gotten rid of mine. :(


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Jan 18, 2018 07:42 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #5

Well, I use the Tamron mainly for portraits and it does a fantastic job. I just love how well balanced the Tamron 85mm is. The rendering is really good without sacrificing sharpness and CA performance. It's also the lightest of the bunch which is a big bonus.

For me anyway, swapping out the my current 85 for the Canon would be an expensive downgrade.


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Jan 18, 2018 20:46 |  #6

I tested them all including the Zeiss Otus

I went with the Sigma

This was before the new 85L came out

It would be a hard call for me but cant say for sure because I still have not tested the L. Im sure its great

But Im extremely happy with the 85 Art

Zeiss is better....But not 2800.00 better on anyones planet

for the $$$$ I dont think anything touches the art in the 85 class

The Tammy was #3 for consideration. Its OK but the art is much better in my opinion. Color, Bokeh spanks the Tammy


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Jan 18, 2018 21:37 |  #7

umphotography wrote in post #18544113 (external link)
Color, Bokeh spanks the Tammy

I respectfully disagree. The Sigma has a little softer bokeh for sure...as for the rest, we're splitting hairs.


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Jan 18, 2018 22:44 |  #8

Having owned and shot most of these lenses professionally, the 85 IS is far and away the most versatile and reliable.

That said, in most individual areas there are lenses that beat it. Sharpness? Sigma. Rendering? 85L II. Correction? Otus.
Except AF speed where it spanks everything except the 85 f/1.8.

But it is consistently good in ALL of these areas and scores major points for being relatively compact, weather sealing, 77mm filter, having IS, and blazing AF speed.




  
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Jan 18, 2018 22:45 |  #9

This was pretty good.



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Jan 19, 2018 22:26 |  #10

my own hands on observation comparing both the art and new L IS was that the sigma was noticeably sharper at 1:1 though you'd really be splitting hairs looking at overall IQ between the 2 lenses, IQ should be least of your concerns when deciding between the 2

weight wasn't really an issue with either lens but i felt the L handled better due to it's physical dimensions

personally if money was of no objection and/or i am a working pro that demands it i would go with the L for the first party AF (though the copy of the art i was testing was no slouch and didn't show any inconsistency focusing) and IS (weirdly copy i tested i didn't feel the IS engage as much as i thought it would, made me check that the switch was actually on)

but if i were to get an 85mm today i'd go for the art as i don't feel the L offers any more than what the art is capable of personally and price difference here is ball park 1 grand


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Jan 20, 2018 05:36 |  #11

Dude is comparing other 85mm lenses to the $4500 Zeiss? LOL




  
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Jan 20, 2018 19:41 |  #12

Would think he Zeus’s Milvus 85 1.4 would be the chosen competitor. Have not seem any comparison with that and the new Canon 85 1.4.


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Jan 21, 2018 20:16 |  #13

Not tested myself but it seems that these 85mm are all great and reasonably close in terms of IQ.

I would still say that the 85 L ii has something special that all others (including the Otus) cannot reproduce. If I was doing a lot of posed portraits, that's the lens i would pick.

For a more versitile option (with faster AF) the Canon would be a great compromise for whoever gets significant benefit from IS and has no budget concerns.


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Jan 21, 2018 21:19 |  #14

i-G12 wrote in post #18544946 (external link)
Dude is comparing other 85mm lenses to the $4500 Zeiss? LOL


I compared the 85 art to the Zeiss. I felt the Sigma was very much on par to the Zeiss. I did not see some of the Chromo concerns that were in this video.


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Jan 22, 2018 03:03 |  #15

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