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Feb 04, 2018 21:33 |  #16

I mostly buy new, only rarely buy used.

A couple years ago I bought a used EF-S 15-85mm lens from a reputable individual. It turned out to be a bad purchase. The lens was not very sharp. I don't think there was a fault with it, but that all these lenses are not that sharp. This despite the fantastic reviews it garnered when it first came out. Because it was a private sale, I was not able to return it. I sold it instead, at a loss.

When you buy used from a private seller, you limit your options if you change your mind.

I suspect some gear is sold because the owner is not happy with it. In some cases, there is a fault with the item. I once had a Canon 100-400mm lens that occasionally would lock up when tracking birds. It only happened when pointed up and zoomed to 400mm. Once locked, it would not focus until zoomed in. That restored its function, but of course resulted in missed shots. The lens was sent in to Canon but they said there was nothing wrong with it. But there was. I was able to return it to the dealer and exchange it for another copy of the lens. What happened to the first one? I'm sure it got sold to someone else! Hopefully the current owner does not use it for tracking birds.

Occasionally you read stories here on POTN about someone who bought a used item that was not as described, for instance a body with a much higher shutter count than purported.

I bought a Canon 100mm macro new and hated it because it lacked IS. There was nothing wrong with it, it just didn't have a feature I needed. Returned it the next day to the dealer and exchanged it for the 100mm L IS version and am very happy with it.

If a good deal on a used item comes along, I might go for it, but I'm usually happier with new purchases.


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Feb 05, 2018 02:03 |  #17

I've bought 3 used cameras, all with some issues.

G16 from reputable online seller of used camera gear...defective menu.

G1X from eBay. Seller said it was an unused Canon refurb...zoom feature malfunction.

1D4 from private party...dust (internal) in the viewfinder.

If you buy used test/check the camera as soon as possible. Find out if it comes with a warranty.
Ask the seller if the camera can be returned if a problem is found.


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Feb 05, 2018 04:12 |  #18

I have bought nearly everything used, the last time I bought a new camera body was 2007 and a lens 2015. On Ebay there have been a couple of duds ie not as described they got sent back and refund was given, alas I was out on postage. In the UK though you have to be careful as some of the dealers are cheaper than buying off Ebay where I guess the got to win part of bidding pushes up prices. With an expensive purchase like a 5D3 I would be inclined to get one from a dealer as they tend to give a warranty of 3-12 months, it gives you a chance to see if any issues are there. My A7 was from a dealer no issues but its good to feel covered, it cost less than half the original new price as the mark 2 had come along. Like cars there is a massive hit on buying digital cameras actually its worse once the next version comes out, lenses not so much. I ought to add I am a quite prolific shooter, running several projects side by side, my cameras get a lot of use and no issues apart from one after 9 years of heavy use. I say go for it you will save money almost enough to buy a used body as a spare, but at $1300 use some place with a warranty.


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Feb 05, 2018 10:17 |  #19

yea these are all very good to read... I think I will stick with new since it's not too much more anyways, that will ensure no issues.
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Feb 05, 2018 11:33 |  #20

Archibald wrote in post #18556501 (external link)
I bought a Canon 100mm macro new and hated it because it lacked IS. There was nothing wrong with it, it just didn't have a feature I needed. Returned it the next day to the dealer and exchanged it for the 100mm L IS version and am very happy with it.

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Hey, Archie!

I am curious - if you know what you need IS, then why did you buy a lens without it?


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Feb 05, 2018 12:21 |  #21

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Hey, Archie!

I am curious - if you know what you need IS, then why did you buy a lens without it?

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It was my first real macro lens. At the time, here on POTN, folks were saying that you don't need IS for a macro lens because IS is not very effective at macro distances. Furthermore, if you use flash, you freeze motion with the flash. That's a second reason you don't need IS in a macro lens.

The non-IS lens is quite a bit cheaper, so that's what I bought.

But in only a couple of hours of shooting, I realized that often I wasn't using it at 1:1 but further away where IS is very useful. Besides, even at 1:1, IS is quite useful even if it isn't as good as when used at lower magnification. Furthermore, IS is great for stabilizing the image in the viewfinder when you are framing the subject. Finally, if you are shooting outdoors in bright light, it is common to have ghosting from the ambient light when using flash. IS helps to reduce that ghosting by stabilizing the image.

I've mentioned these reasons several times in the past in posts where folks ask whether they should get the IS lens or not. I was misled (for my kind of uses), maybe others won't be.


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Mar 04, 2018 12:44 |  #22

I've bought a lens from ebay, was just fine. However, I now only buy from a reputable second hand dealer like MPB Photographic. I've had several things from them, and if you buy the best quality, not the lower quality stuff, you should not have any problems. I would not risk big money buying from ebay, whatever the product. Too many bad people out there for me to risk my hard earned dosh.


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Mar 04, 2018 16:18 |  #23

Hannya wrote in post #18577406 (external link)
I've bought a lens from ebay, was just fine. However, I now only buy from a reputable second hand dealer like MPB Photographic. I've had several things from them, and if you buy the best quality, not the lower quality stuff, you should not have any problems. I would not risk big money buying from ebay, whatever the product. Too many bad people out there for me to risk my hard earned dosh.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but eBay really isn't that treacherous. Yes, people who are prone to getting caught up in Nigerian prince e-mail scams should probably avoid eBay (and the internet in general) but it isn't that hard to have a perfectly acceptable experience as long as you use some common sense.

Just out of curiosity I went back and took a look at my purchase history from the start of 2016 until now. In total I have 114 purchases for a grand total just north of $24,000. That includes everything from $1.99 for a pair of hard to locate lithium coin-batteries, to $4,000+ for used camera equipment purchases. Out of all that I have had exactly zero issues with fraudulent sellers; one item that was damaged in transit where I collected the insurance from USPS with absolutely no hassle; and one item where something was missing from the shipment and the seller immediately responded to correct the situation. In fact, having been an eBay member for close to 19 years now, in all that time I've been "scammed" exactly one time, when I was in college and bought a $10 expansion for a video game that was sold as a "new" item but was clearly opened and used when I received it.

My track record of eBay purchases easily equals my experience on Amazon (for example) and it probably runs slightly above average when considered against my experiences shopping online in general. On top of that I've earned a couple thousand dollars in eBay Bucks and other promotions over that same time period, not to mention times that I have bought things just to pocket $100 in eBay Bucks and then turned around and sold those items for a small profit elsewhere.




  
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Mar 13, 2018 10:55 as a reply to  @ ShadowHillsPhoto's post |  #24

There's no call to be condescending.

What pees me off about Ebay is that you often see a product (not necessarily used) for sale, item located (for me) in the UK. THEN when you proceed to order it, it becomes clear it actually is coming from China. That is clearly inaccurate and an attempt to mislead. I've bought, and sold, a good few things on Ebay. I just won't go near high value items.


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Mar 13, 2018 12:34 |  #25

Hannya wrote in post #18584494 (external link)
There's no call to be condescending.

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Nothing I wrote was intended to be condescending, unless you mean the part about email scams and you happen to think you fall into the category of people that fall for those things. I wasn't implying that that applied to you, that was just a slightly hyperbolic way of recognizing that some people just aren't comfortable with online transactions in general, and eBay isn't going to be their cup of tea. It wasn't in any way directed at you.

The real point I was trying to make was that eBay just isn't the dark, scary corner of the internet that some people make it out to be, and I have extensive first hand experience to base that opinion on. In fact, just to add to everything I posted above, on Friday eBay sent me a 20% off coupon to be used on anything I wanted up to a maximum coupon value of $100. I've been wanting to play with the Laowa 15mm macro for a while now, which just happens to sell for $499, but I've been hesitant to buy one new because they instantly drop to around $350 on the used market (but very hard to find). $400 for a new one after the coupon was a no-brainer though, and UPS delivered it to my door this morning.

To be clear, eBay isn't perfect. There are plenty of things I dislike about them (I won't sell through eBay unless it's a last resort). As a buyer though I've done very well and have saved a ton of money by using them.




  
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Mar 17, 2018 18:28 |  #26

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Hannya wrote in post #18584494 (external link)
There's no call to be condescending.

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Nothing he said was condescending in the least - not one word.

I have quoted his entire post below, as a way of preserving the post, as written, as a way to prove that there were no condescending remarks. . One should note that the post was not edited at all at any point up until now, so it's not like there was something condescending and then it got changed. . There was never any condescending content in this post at any point whatsoever.

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but eBay really isn't that treacherous. Yes, people who are prone to getting caught up in Nigerian prince e-mail scams should probably avoid eBay (and the internet in general) but it isn't that hard to have a perfectly acceptable experience as long as you use some common sense.

Just out of curiosity I went back and took a look at my purchase history from the start of 2016 until now. In total I have 114 purchases for a grand total just north of $24,000. That includes everything from $1.99 for a pair of hard to locate lithium coin-batteries, to $4,000+ for used camera equipment purchases. Out of all that I have had exactly zero issues with fraudulent sellers; one item that was damaged in transit where I collected the insurance from USPS with absolutely no hassle; and one item where something was missing from the shipment and the seller immediately responded to correct the situation. In fact, having been an eBay member for close to 19 years now, in all that time I've been "scammed" exactly one time, when I was in college and bought a $10 expansion for a video game that was sold as a "new" item but was clearly opened and used when I received it.

My track record of eBay purchases easily equals my experience on Amazon (for example) and it probably runs slightly above average when considered against my experiences shopping online in general. On top of that I've earned a couple thousand dollars in eBay Bucks and other promotions over that same time period, not to mention times that I have bought things just to pocket $100 in eBay Bucks and then turned around and sold those items for a small profit elsewhere.


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Apr 18, 2018 21:39 |  #27

wow this got a bit off topic anyhow I ended up buying the 7dII, new from an online retailer.
It was cheaper than anywhere else as they all now include the ridiculous wifi adapter that I have no use for and they tack on $400 for it lol.
I finally found a reputable retailer online and got it for 1499, not the 1900 that best buy, B&H, and everyone else was charging.
very happy with it and I'm glad as I didn't want to buy used in the end and not know if the camera was properly taken care of or working perfectly etc.




  
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Apr 25, 2018 11:13 |  #28

I only buy used, off of craigslist, ebay etc.. never had any issues and I’ve been on Ebay since 2001.


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Apr 29, 2018 04:18 |  #29

Glad you bought what you wanted in the condition you prefered. Everyone is different, and what suits one doesn't suit us all. New or used, there is no right or wrong. Now let's see some pics...




  
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May 07, 2018 15:01 |  #30

heat00 wrote in post #18552890 (external link)
thanks for this.. while I agree with many of your points, (even though my car is bought new as finding used ones of my model is hard to find and a bad idea) I would be concerned about buying from a person.... to save how much? let's use the 5dIII that I'm looking at as example:
new is 2200$
used adorama is 1300-1400$
What would it be buying from a private individual? A lot less than 1300$? If so, I guess maybe point me to where I would find this person. I also don't know enough about this equipment to know if the person is hiding a problem or something... whereas from a store even for a few bucks more, there is someone there if a problem arises? Just my thoughts, If I buy a camera from john Smith and it doesn't work, then what? John is no where to be found lol?
not saying I wouldn't do it, just voicing my concerns


I had it happen to me. Both a used Sigma lens for $200 and spent $199 on the repair. Best bet is to buy refurbished if you can :)


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