Why 13x19?

Oh, P.S. I forgot to mention, 13X19 paper is specifically intended for 12x18 print in an 18"x24" frame with 3" bordered matte.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18562702
Oh, P.S. I forgot to mention, 13X19 paper is specifically intended for 12x18 print in an 18"x24" frame with 3" bordered matte.

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Which works out perfectly, because then you have a mat that is an even 3" all the way around, and you can avoid that awkward, sloppy look of having a mat that is wider on the top and bottom than it is on the sides, or vice versa.


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #18562819
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Which works out perfectly, because then you have a mat that is an even 3" all the way around, and you can avoid that awkward, sloppy look of having a mat that is wider on the top and bottom than it is on the sides, or vice versa.

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I think a mat that is the same size all the way round can work well. But having proportionately wider mount margins to the sides also works well for landscape prints ... as does the same pari passu, top and bottom, for portrait prints.

I also think that having the bottom mat margin larger than the top mat margin can give a good look. It's down to personal taste.

Disproportionately narrow/thin side margins are definitely not a good look for a landscape print though ... strange letter-box effect.

When I did my first gallery show, I had mismatched borders on a few prints do to creative aspect ratios. I did not like it.

Now I either make sure I have equal border on all four sides, or I do what Davi just mentioned, and leave a strong lower matte border, the sides and top all the same size. I'd do a custom frame size if I couldn't get my matte's looking good.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18562702
Oh, P.S. I forgot to mention, 13X19 paper is specifically intended for 12x18 print in an 18"x24" frame with 3" bordered matte.

Thanks for that!
I've been trying to figure that out for printing my stuff for a friend to hang.
Now noted on my box of 13X19 paper in sharpie!

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18562702
Oh, P.S. I forgot to mention, 13X19 paper is specifically intended for 12x18 print in an 18"x24" frame with 3" bordered matte.

I know very little about matting. I've mostly done borderless prints with no mat in frames. I've been getting 13x19 frames online.

Is the 1/2 inch border on all sides to facilitate matting?

KatManDEW wrote in post #18563620
I know very little about matting. I've mostly done borderless prints with no mat in frames. I've been getting 13x19 frames online.

I think that if you start using mats around your prints - mats at least 3" wide on all 4 sides - then you will see a huge improvement in the overall presentation of your work. . You will wonder why you ever framed anything without a mat - that is how big the improvement will be.

"Boring" mats work best - by that I mean solid black or white mats with no pattern or color or fancy shapes cut into them. . This is what is required by reputable galleries. . And of course you'll want the mat to be even width on all sides. . Keep it as simple as possible for a great presentation!

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KatManDEW wrote in post #18563620
Is the 1/2 inch border on all sides to facilitate matting?

It is a lot easier to position a 13" by 19" print in an 11 3/4" by 17 3/4" hole than it is to position a 12" by 18" print in that same hole.

The overlap is extremely helpful, and even allows for a bit of final tweaking of the exact framing that you want.


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I like the look of double mats so much, that is about all I do any more. I haven't yet tried to do a plaque window, it would be a bit more difficult due to the varying distances needed to outline it properly twice, but I might try that the next time.

I just like this look: http://tuxedoframegall​ery.com …-Mats-in-a-Wood-Frame.jpg

DaviSto wrote in post #18562862
I think a mat that is the same size all the way round can work well. But having proportionately wider mount margins to the sides also works well for landscape prints ... as does the same pari passu, top and bottom, for portrait prints.

I also think that having the bottom mat margin larger than the top mat margin can give a good look. It's down to personal taste.

Larger bottom matte margin was the way I was taught as standard...but that was a few years before they invented dirt. Manual dirt, not the modern automatic dirt.

RDKirk wrote in post #18563795
... that was a few years before they invented dirt. Manual dirt, not the modern automatic dirt.

OK RDK you've got me here. I even googled D.I.R.T. acronyms. I am missing something ... probably something obvious. Please put an end to my confusion.

DaviSto wrote in post #18563827
OK RDK you've got me here. I even googled D.I.R.T. acronyms. I am missing something ... probably something obvious. Please put an end to my confusion.

He is saying he is older than dirt, and even older than that even.

Ha ... just obvious! Thank you.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18563634
I think that if you start using mats around your prints - mats at least 3" wide on all 4 sides - then you will see a huge improvement in the overall presentation of your work. . You will wonder why you ever framed anything without a mat - that is how big the improvement will be.

"Boring" mats work best - by that I mean solid black or white mats with no pattern or color or fancy shapes cut into them. . This is what is required by reputable galleries. . And of course you'll want the mat to be even width on all sides. . Keep it as simple as possible for a great presentation!

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It is a lot easier to position a 13" by 19" print in an 11 3/4" by 17 3/4" hole than it is to position a 12" by 18" print in that same hole.

The overlap is extremely helpful, and even allows for a bit of final tweaking of the exact framing that you want.

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Thank you very much for the insights! Very helpful and I truly appreciate it.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18562702
Oh, P.S. I forgot to mention, 13X19 paper is specifically intended for 12x18 print in an 18"x24" frame with 3" bordered matte.

This is very helpful information. I just want to make sure I understand. When you say 12x18 print, am I to crop my image to 12x18 and print so there is a 1" border on the 13x19 paper?

bsiegler wrote in post #18788129
This is very helpful information. I just want to make sure I understand. When you say 12x18 print, am I to crop my image to 12x18 and print so there is a 1" border on the 13x19 paper?

Well if it were from a DSLR there would be no need to crop the image, the aspect ratio of 18×12 is 3:2 just like the sensor. So all you would need to do is either resample the image to 5400×3600 pixels, or let your software/printer driver sort out the resizing. You will then have the 1" border around the print.

Alan