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Feb 17, 2018 22:06 |  #1

hows it going everyone!
So I currently have a 6dmk1, and a t6i. Lately ive really been interested in selling both cameras and getting the little a6500 or 6dmk2.

I know you might be asking why not keep both, but I travel quite a bit and lately have been doing a lot of video work. Im really tired of carrying both cameras all the time and would like to just keep one body as a "do it all" sort of thing. the main reason for the sony is because of its size. I know it isnt FF, but it sure would be nice to carry such a small thing around. The cannon however because I don't have to get rid of any lenses, its FF, and it seems like both my cameras in one. My biggest drawback is the AF points. they're ridiculously cluttered together and I can't stand it.

Im really leaning towards the a6500, I really love its size, 120fps, and relatively good picture quality.
but it isnt FF, so I may consider a used a7rII? not really sure what direction to go with this.

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as for my photography style, I do a lot of landscape, astro, and late night street photography.. with FF would be best for.




  
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Feb 26, 2018 05:00 |  #2

You may want to hear what will be announced by Sony later today. Rumor has it that it will be the a7iii. Basically a FF a6500 from the rumored specs.

I don't shoot video but feel in love with my a6500. So much so that it became my main shooter at the last two weddings I shot. I love that I can run my Canon glass on an adapter so I don't have to migrate completely at once. I'm hoping the announcement later today will be the a7iii as I don't want the a7riii's 42.4mp files to deal with


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Feb 26, 2018 06:58 |  #3

If you are shooting a lot of video, I would think 6D II DPAF would be an important selling point.

If you really want small, the canon SL2 is a hell of a camera. WAY underrated and under discussed.


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Feb 26, 2018 16:37 as a reply to  @ DBNissan's post |  #4

Very interesting! I’ll keep an eye out thank you!




  
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Feb 26, 2018 20:05 |  #5

The Sony a7iii was just announced. Clean high ISO in real world testing. Two SD card slots. It has the don't a9 focus system. All for $1999. It's an affordable beast!


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Feb 26, 2018 22:58 as a reply to  @ DBNissan's post |  #6

Yup, just saw every video on YouTube. I LOVE canon and it’s lens lineup, I’ve owned cannon printers, point and shoots and anything else they’ve made since I was a kid. But I’m pre-ordering the a7iii. It’s everything I want in a camera! and so much more and at its price point all I need to do is sell my 6D, t6i, flash and some other things and I’ll basically have enough for it. My only real issue is the dam price of Sony lenses.. but it’s one hell of a camera.




  
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Feb 27, 2018 01:28 |  #7

Pick up a Sigma MC-11 EF adapter so you can run Canon glass on the Sony E-Mount for the time being until you can get Sony native glass. That's what I've been doing. I bought the a6500 and MC-11 last year and have slowly been getting native lenses. Eye-AF has been working on some Canon lenses on the a9 and a7riii. I'm hoping it will work the same for the a7iii!


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Feb 27, 2018 11:25 |  #8

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Yup, just saw every video on YouTube. I LOVE canon and it’s lens lineup, I’ve owned cannon printers, point and shoots and anything else they’ve made since I was a kid. But I’m pre-ordering the a7iii. It’s everything I want in a camera! and so much more and at its price point all I need to do is sell my 6D, t6i, flash and some other things and I’ll basically have enough for it. My only real issue is the dam price of Sony lenses.. but it’s one hell of a camera.

consider buying the kit with 28-70. It's an ok lens, and the kit only adds an additional $200 for that lens, which is probably worth it.

it'll be great for video and stills if you can live with the somewhat slow aperture. It's super lightweight too, very pleasant to shoot with. I'de highly recommend sony's inexpensive primes, they are all very good to excellent. FE 28, 35, 50, 85, all excellent well priced lenses, I own them all! I've tried some of the more expensive variety, but I'm pretty darn happy with the inexpensive variety. The expensive stuff tends to be too big for my liking, so I mostly stay away. You can definitely source out a small high quality kit, just beware of the large aperture temptation, you can end up with massive lenses if you seccumb to GAS.

moving forward, go into the godox system, the small flash is very nice and fits the body wonderfully. Super inexpensive stuff.


Sony A7rii/A7riii - FE 12-24/4 - FE 24-240 - FE 28/2 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - EF 135/1.8 Art - F 600/5.6 - CZ 35-70, 100-300 - Astro Rok 14/2.8, 24/1.4 - Tamron 28-75 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 VC

  
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Feb 27, 2018 18:11 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #9

You mention something I was thinking about! I generally hate smaller aperture lenses because a lot of what I do tends to be at night in the city or dimly lit areas. Astrophotography as well and video. The fact that it adds $200 seems very appealing! But I was also considering not getting it and using the money for a 35mm. Rokinon/samyang seems to offer a cool little pancake F2.8, I’ve seen it around for $300 used but people report slow autofocus and somewhat poor in low light.. I could also start with the 50 1.8.. or just take the kit lens. I’m sure the higher ISO is better than my 6D anyways and addsbsome flexibility in focal range. Really not sure which direction to go.




  
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Feb 27, 2018 18:33 |  #10

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You mention something I was thinking about! I generally hate smaller aperture lenses because a lot of what I do tends to be at night in the city or dimly lit areas. Astrophotography as well and video. The fact that it adds $200 seems very appealing! But I was also considering not getting it and using the money for a 35mm. Rokinon/samyang seems to offer a cool little pancake F2.8, I’ve seen it around for $300 used but people report slow autofocus and somewhat poor in low light.. I could also start with the 50 1.8.. or just take the kit lens. I’m sure the higher ISO is better than my 6D anyways and addsbsome flexibility in focal range. Really not sure which direction to go.

tough pick, I've seen the rokinon go as low as 250!

$300 is normalish: https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …f_e_af_35mm_f_2​_8_fe.html (external link)

I picked up the FE 50 1.8 for around $150 on best buy open box. Either I would use over the kit lens, flip a coin on which to get, for me, I'de simply own both. I have scenarios where the size of the thinner 35 f2.8 makes a difference, like casual dinner with the family, I have a case that clips to my belt. Absolutely cannot fit anything larger.

low light will not be drastically better than your 6D, I had that cam before, and it was good in low light/high iso. Dont expect any miracles shooting at 25600, it'll still be noisy.


Sony A7rii/A7riii - FE 12-24/4 - FE 24-240 - FE 28/2 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - EF 135/1.8 Art - F 600/5.6 - CZ 35-70, 100-300 - Astro Rok 14/2.8, 24/1.4 - Tamron 28-75 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 VC

  
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Feb 27, 2018 18:46 |  #11

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tough pick, I've seen the rokinon go as low as 250!

$300 is normalish: https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …f_e_af_35mm_f_2​_8_fe.html (external link)

I picked up the FE 50 1.8 for around $150 on best buy open box. Either I would use over the kit lens, flip a coin on which to get, for me, I'de simply own both. I have scenarios where the size of the thinner 35 f2.8 makes a difference, like casual dinner with the family, I have a case that clips to my belt. Absolutely cannot fit anything larger.

low light will not be drastically better than your 6D, I had that cam before, and it was good in low light/high iso. Dont expect any miracles shooting at 25600, it'll still be noisy.

Ooo.. $150 is very tempting.
Ima jump on the pre-order so I’ll have some time to shop around for some deals for now. Dam Sony glass is pricey.
How’d you like your transition from the 6D to Sony?




  
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Feb 27, 2018 19:52 |  #12

The A6500 is nice, but there's very little support for APS-C lenses. I can't remember the last non-kit lens they made for their crop bodies. Sony is all in on FF. If you can live with what they have lens-wise then it's a fine camera, if you need more glass, you'll have to buy the FF variants, and your size benefits and balance are out the window. I'd probably opt for an A7II in your position. That way you keep the FF benefits and have at least the confidence in knowing the lenses and accessories will continue. Plus the $1100 price tag for what you get is pretty good. A7III looks amazing on paper, and is only $100 more than a 6DII...but I'd wait until production samples are out in the wild and there's in depth reviews to check.

Also, I've seen comments made in passing on various Sony forums that their cameras suck at astrophotography for some reason or another. Not my cup of tea so I never looked into it, but you might want to double check first if you lean Sony.




  
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Feb 28, 2018 01:25 |  #13

I am eager to get the a7iii. I have a 6D currently and have found that I mostly used my a6500+MC-11 with my Canon glass to shoot my last two weddings. Biggest downfall was the battery life in that small camera. The a7iii will have better battery life at 700+ shots, though still not close to what I can get out of my 6D and 80D which has been 900+ for each


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Feb 28, 2018 10:55 |  #14

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Ooo.. $150 is very tempting.
Ima jump on the pre-order so I’ll have some time to shop around for some deals for now. Dam Sony glass is pricey.
How’d you like your transition from the 6D to Sony?

it took me a while to completely get used to sony, a solid year for the transition. I was an early adopter, having shot canon from models like the rebel XT, D60 (not to be confused with 60D!). I worked with very primitive sony's, however, by the time the A7 mark 2 came out, to me, the writing was on the wall. I could see that sony was serious about their lineup, and I banked on them. I jumped ship after a year of shooting both systems, even before they came out with really capable bodies, the user experience was simply better for me, I enjoyed the EVF greatly even though I have transitioned to mostly a rear screen shooter :-P

approach with an open mind, you'll be shooting Sony, not canon, they do things differently. I dont consider it bad, just different. I even went as far as swapping out raw converters, went from lightroom to capture one...... extremely tough learning curve, but it's a raw converter made for sony and it works extremely well. At this point, you couldnt pay me to switch back, I'm simply not interested in the heavy systems of the past. I do occasional astro with the samyang 14/24 and cant say it's better than the 6D other than resolution, but when I'm not doing astro, the usability is just so much better. AF anywhere on your screen is just so nice. AF during video with a small fast 28/35/50mm is also real nice. Using a neck strap again is pretty nice too, it's not too heavy and cross body slings not needed. Having a bring everywhere setup is extremely nice, simply shove the A7x + 35 f2.8 in a minimalist bag that clips to my belt. I simply would not be able to do this with a DSLR, no amount of black magic can get a DLSR into a clippable bag like the lowepro ILC-50. When I'm not feeling like bringing a camera, I'll strap that on my belt just in case. Doesnt drag me down, takes up no space, hands always free. Should I change my mind, I've got a high quality 35mm on me.


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Feb 28, 2018 11:09 |  #15

DBNissan wrote in post #18574206 (external link)
I am eager to get the a7iii. I have a 6D currently and have found that I mostly used my a6500+MC-11 with my Canon glass to shoot my last two weddings. Biggest downfall was the battery life in that small camera. The a7iii will have better battery life at 700+ shots, though still not close to what I can get out of my 6D and 80D which has been 900+ for each

Likewise! I’m not sure if I should jump on the pre-sale today or wait.. even though my mind has been 99% made lol. How’s the MC-11 working out for you in terms of focusing and with what lenses?

Very true. I’ve forgotten to charge my 6D AND forgotten to bring an extra battery and I can still manage a respectable number of shots. But it’s like old phones. My dad is still on the flip phone generation because he says modern phones need to be charged way too often. He can last multiple days without a charge lol.




  
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