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Feb 20, 2018 11:09 |  #1

I know the pros and cons (non) for using the supplied lens hood, but im after something much shorter, just for keeping the lens in my bag without the cap on.
I can go by the filter thread size to search for hoods that fit that size, but im pretty sure thats no guarantee the hood will fit. So im asking if anyone can give me a specific model to look at.
Im only looking for 3rd party hoods, not genuine canon ones.

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Feb 20, 2018 11:14 |  #2

Mamiya rubber lens hood or equivalent, as long as you’re okay with function over form.


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Feb 20, 2018 11:16 |  #3

Have you thought about a collapsible rubber hood? Won’t provide the physical protection but will block strong side light (which is what hoods were originally used for).

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Feb 20, 2018 12:06 |  #4

dave_bass5 wrote in post #18568227 (external link)
I know the pros and cons (non) for using the supplied lens hood, but im after something much shorter, just for keeping the lens in my bag without the cap on.
I can go by the filter thread size to search for hoods that fit that size, but im pretty sure thats no guarantee the hood will fit. So im asking if anyone can give me a specific model to look at.
Im only looking for 3rd party hoods, not genuine canon ones.

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A specific model .... yes, of course! . See the link that I posted below.

I can't see any valid reason for using the Canon hood that comes with the lens. . In fact, I absolutely despise the rigid plastic hoods for lenses in this size range because thy make it so hard to fit the lenses into a bag. . And I'll be damned if I'm going to take a hood off and reverse it every time I put the lens in my bag.

I use collapsible rubber hoods for my 100-400mm and my 24-105mm, and can't imagine ever going back to the factory-type hoods.

Here is what I use, but in the thread size that you need for your 135L:
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …_lhr_t72_72mm_3​_in_1.html (external link)

For $9 you can't beat it. . Plus, if you buy three or more, I think they drop down to like 7 bucks a piece. . Heck, they are so much better than the Canon hoods that I would use them even if they were more expensive than the Canon originals.


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Feb 20, 2018 17:31 |  #5

OK, thanks for the suggestions. As stated i want to use this hood to protect the front element when the lens is in my bag. This sits face down so i dont think a rubber hood will work. I do have one for my 50mm lens and its not very ridged so i know these wont be of any use.

Im also in London, UK, so although an Amazon link might be usable, im not going to be ordering from the USA as the postage will cost more than the hood. Thanks anyway. I do agree with Tom about hoods, at least with the 135L hood. Its the only lens i have to transport with the hood reversed.

I was hoping there might be a hood from another Canon lens that would fit. I use a hood from my 18-135 on my 70-300L, so i know it can be done, but the 135L has a diameter that doesn't seem to be common. .


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Feb 20, 2018 18:04 |  #6

The EW-78C from the EF 35mm f/1.4 will work.

If you like the idea of using a petal hood, I would buy 1 each of the EW-78, EW-78B, EW-78C, EW-78D, and EW-78E from eBay for about $2.00 each. I expect one of them should fit with the petals in the correct position.



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Feb 21, 2018 08:43 |  #7

Thanks Mike, they look prefect. Ill get one of each and see how they fit. Ill still use the original one if i have to, but since getting the lens about 5 years ago ive hardly used the hood.

Actually, the EW-78D was the hood i was going to get a while ago but couldn't decide if it would fit (although it seemed like it should).


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Feb 21, 2018 08:50 |  #8

dave_bass5 wrote in post #18568907 (external link)
Thanks Mike, they look prefect. Ill get one of each and see how they fit. Ill still use the original one if i have to, but since getting the lens about 5 years ago ive hardly used the hood.

Actually, the EW-78D was the hood i was going to get a while ago but couldn't decide if it would fit (although it seemed like it should).

The EW-78C fits, however, I dont think the ES-78 for the 50L will fit.

I used to shoot 50L + 135L combo and really wanted a shorter hood for the longest time. After research, it lead me to the EW-78C. I'm pretty sure I tried the ES-78, but it didnt fit.


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Feb 21, 2018 10:18 |  #9

Hacksaw!


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Feb 21, 2018 10:31 |  #10

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The EW-78C fits, however, I dont think the ES-78 for the 50L will fit.
I'm pretty sure I tried the ES-78, but it didn't fit.

What do you mean by "fits" and "doesn't fit"?

Won't any hoods or filters with 72mm diameter threads fit? . Aren't filter thread sizes universal to all modern lenses? . It seems to me that anything that is 72mm will fit, and anything that is not 72mm will not fit.

Technically, the angle of view afforded by a hood is not a "fitting" issue, it is a usability issue. . So even if a lens hood blocks out the corners and gives you extremely heavy vignette, it still "fits" if it can be screwed on to the end of the lens.


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I used to shoot 50L + 135L combo and really wanted a shorter hood for the longest time.

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Hacksaw!

That is what I am wondering. . If someone wants a shorter hood, then why don't they just trim their existing hood down?


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #18568978 (external link)
What do you mean by "fits" and "doesn't fit"?

Won't any hoods or filters with 72mm diameter threads fit? . Aren't filter thread sizes universal to all modern lenses? . It seems to me that anything that is 72mm will fit, and anything that is not 72mm will not fit.

Technically, the angle of view afforded by a hood is not a "fitting" issue, it is a usability issue. . So even if a lens hood blocks out the corners and gives you extremely heavy vignette, it still "fits" if it can be screwed on to the end of the lens.

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That is what I am wondering. . If someone wants a shorter hood, then why don't they just trim their existing hood down?

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been ages since I've owned both lenses, and I recall that even if they had same filter size, the hood thread was different.

I considered the hacksaw route! Too worried about a crooked cut. The hood being slightly tapered was the issue.


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Feb 21, 2018 11:30 |  #12

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I considered the hacksaw route! Too worried about a crooked cut. The hood being slightly tapered was the issue.

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Yes, a crooked cut is likely if you just try to cut through the hood.

Instead, to ensure a straight cut, one should cut around the hood by lightly scoring a groove all the way around, and then slowly deepening the groove little by little with the blade.

Even with this painstaking care to do it precisely, plastic cuts real easily and the job could be completed in less than 15 minutes .... and that includes carefully grinding the edges smooth with a Dremel tool or emery cloth.


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Feb 21, 2018 11:42 |  #13

If you have a workbench it's easy to do. Kitchen table?

Flat surface to put the hood on. Flat piece of wood (or anything) thickness that the hood will be.
Hacksaw away gently, using the piece of wood (or anything) to keep the hacksaw blade level. ie, a horizontal mitre box.

As Tom said, don't cut all the way through. Once you have a groove all the way around it may be easier to just hand hold the blade.
Or use a cheap blade handle. You have the luxury of not stressing about scratching it, it's just a storage hood.

Once the cut is made a piece of sandpaper on the flat surface, will neaten up the edge. For a real professional job two pieces of sandpaper, coarse then finer.


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Feb 21, 2018 11:44 |  #14

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18568978 (external link)
What do you mean by "fits" and "doesn't fit"?

Won't any hoods or filters with 72mm diameter threads fit? . Aren't filter thread sizes universal to all modern lenses? . It seems to me that anything that is 72mm will fit, and anything that is not 72mm will not fit.

Do you own Canon L lenses? I don't have one that uses the filter threads to mount the included hood. They all use a separate mechanism outside of the lens barrel to mount the hood and they are not all the same, including not on lenses with the same size hoods. For example, My 16-35 "82mm" hood does not work on my 24-70 "82mm" lens and the 24-70 hood does not work on the 16-35. Some may, I don't know but you can't assume they do because they use the same size filters.

The rubber hood you mentioned and that I also use is different and will work on any lens with the same filter ring size.


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Feb 21, 2018 11:50 |  #15

bpalermini wrote in post #18569026 (external link)
Do you own Canon L lenses? I don't have one that uses the filter threads to mount the included hood. They all use a separate mechanism outside of the lens barrel to mount the hood and they are not all the same, including not on lenses with the same size hoods. For example, My 16-35 "82mm" hood does not work on my 24-70 "82mm" lens and the 24-70 hood does not work on the 16-35. Some may, I don't know but you can't assume they do because they use the same size filters.

The rubber hood you mentioned and that I also use is different and will work on any lens with the same filter ring size.

Tom uses big lenses with the screw tighten hoods that are pressured into place :-P


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