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Canon 1DX II vs 5D Mark IV + 300mm 2.8

 
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Feb 22, 2018 05:16 |  #1

Goodmorning everyone,
I would like your opinion on a future purchase.

I state that the use of the equipment in question is intended almost exclusively for sports / photojournalism and that currently my winning combination is Canon 1DX + 70-200 2.8 IS II.

Wanting to combine a new camera with a telephoto lens, which pair would you rather have and why?

Canon 1DX II used + Canon 300mm 2.8 L IS used = 6500 €

Canon 5D MK4 New gr. 4 years + Canon 300mm 2.8 L IS II used = 6800 €

The economic difference is almost irrelevant, but it is my maximum budget.

By making a general assessment of the equipment, what could be the best choice taking into account all the possible aspects, eg New, Used, Warranty, Quality, Price, etc.

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Feb 22, 2018 06:22 |  #2

Sports, PJ: 1DXII. FPS matters.


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Feb 22, 2018 17:12 |  #3

I was on a recent wildlife trip

5D4 owners were missing shots right and left with 300's

I had a 1Dx2 and rarely missed

Night and day cameras with Servo and AF performance for sports and wildlife- especially if its fast and it moves


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Feb 23, 2018 03:07 |  #4

I recently bought a new 5D4. I could have saved a few bucks (not many) buying a used 1DX. I'd have to spend a lot more for a used 1DX2 and about double for a new 1DX2.
1DX vs 5D4 is a close race. 1DX2 vs 5D4, I don't think it's even a race.

I don't think there a many people on these forums with experience of warranty in Italy. I certainly have none.


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Feb 23, 2018 07:49 |  #5

The only thing, to my mind, that puts a 1d in front of a 5d is the weather sealing.
The 5d4, not that I own one, appears to be an incredible camera and I very much doubt it will miss-focus very often if it is set correctly.

I have the 1dx2 which is an awesome camera but the sheer weight, even with a modest lens on can become tiring.


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Feb 23, 2018 10:12 |  #6

I just purchased a 1DXii for sports, I also have a 5Diii. I have a 70-200, have rented 300mm 2.8 several times, one is in the near future. As far as weight, I use a monopod, works great. Wish I could've found a combo...


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Feb 23, 2018 10:24 |  #7

In the 2 combos you listed, for sports, the faster FPS camera is in the less expensive combo. That seems like an obvious choice unless there is some extra benefit about the version 2 lens in the more expensive combo.


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Feb 24, 2018 04:21 |  #8

fordmondeo wrote in post #18570340 (external link)
The only thing, to my mind, that puts a 1d in front of a 5d is the weather sealing.
The 5d4, not that I own one, appears to be an incredible camera and I very much doubt it will miss-focus very often if it is set correctly.

I have the 1dx2 which is an awesome camera but the sheer weight, even with a modest lens on can become tiring.

Of course the 5d4 does not have the same tropicalization of 1dx, but if I have to work in the rain I still use roofing, the problem does not exist.

I also doubt that the 5d4 has big problems for action photography, I used the mk3 with great satisfaction, resentive a bit for the shutter lag, but I think the 5d4 is even closer to the first model 1dx in this.

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In the 2 combos you listed, for sports, the faster FPS camera is in the less expensive combo. That seems like an obvious choice unless there is some extra benefit about the version 2 lens in the more expensive combo.

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In the 2 combos you listed, for sports, the faster FPS camera is in the less expensive combo. That seems like an obvious choice unless there is some extra benefit about the version 2 lens in the more expensive combo.

certainly higher FPS for the sport guarantee a better result, however, since I would use the 300mm 2.8 on canon 1DX and the 70-200 2.8 II on the second body, I would have no problems.

I believe that a 5d4 with the 70-200 does its job in an excellent way, I have seen professionals doing sports with 300 2.8 first series and 6d first series, getting even more than 1dx + 70-200.

Usually it is used to say that the difference in the photos does the quality of the lens, it seems to me that between the first and second version there is a great difference in terms of quality.

Having found a canon 300mm 2.8 is II used but in like new condition, the price is 4000 euros with lens coat and arca swiss bracket, I am oriented to opt for this lens with 5d4 combination or possibly I could evaluate a second used 1dx, also if I'm not completely convinced, because the 5d4 has so many improvements that could be useful, as well as being lighter and more practical.

Meanwhile, I thank all of you for the answers :-)


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Feb 24, 2018 06:41 |  #9

I own (and love) the 5D4, but if your primary purpose is sports then the 1Dx2 would be the standout choice. Not only do you have the FPS and build, it also shares the same low ISO DR improvements of the 5D4.

The lens will matter though. I have shot a good body + poor lens, vs a reasonable body + good lens, and the glass can win the day. I don't know the relative merits of the 300L vs 300L II, but if the former is still good then that plus the 1Dx2 will be a killer combo.


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Mar 02, 2018 07:50 |  #10

sploo wrote in post #18571006 (external link)
I own (and love) the 5D4, but if your primary purpose is sports then the 1Dx2 would be the standout choice. Not only do you have the FPS and build, it also shares the same low ISO DR improvements of the 5D4.

The lens will matter though. I have shot a good body + poor lens, vs a reasonable body + good lens, and the glass can win the day. I don't know the relative merits of the 300L vs 300L II, but if the former is still good then that plus the 1Dx2 will be a killer combo.

In the end I bought the 300mm second version, now I'm waiting to take the 5d mark IV:-D


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Mar 02, 2018 13:06 |  #11

ShotofGod wrote in post #18575822 (external link)
In the end I bought the 300mm second version, now I'm waiting to take the 5d mark IV:-D

I'd be happy with that :)

I suspect the 1Dx2 would be "better", but at quite a cost.


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Mar 05, 2018 09:42 |  #12

Got both the cameras, can't tell the difference in images. Both stunning.


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