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Mar 03, 2018 12:49 |  #76

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It’s a great plan. Adapters work great, however they add about 4 ounces to your camera/lens combo. I’ve owned/used Metabones (IV) an Sigma MC-11 and got the best performance from Metabones, which is disappointing because the MC-11 looks nicer and costs less.

For my part it took me three whole years before I finally went full native Sony glass mainly because I was still shooting a Canon camera and I could easily use the lenses on both cameras. It really amazes me how well Canon lenses perform adapted to Sony bodies. Not quite as good as native glass, but damn close and it gives people like you an instant high quality lens collection and all the time you need to slowly ease your way into a set of native lenses.

Sony glass works on Canon?


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Mar 03, 2018 12:52 |  #77

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Since this seems like a Canon to Sony thread :)

Do I get a metabone 4??

Eye AF work with metabone adapter????

It works with any AF capable adapter. You get metabones for hands down best compatibility. Avoid cheap adapters, they may end up working with only a few lenses.

Sigma works well too but due to past issues, I stay away.


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Mar 03, 2018 13:12 |  #78

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18576706 (external link)
Sony glass works on Canon?

I owned Canon-mount glass and used the Canon lenses on both cameras. Doing so caused my switch to Sony lenses to be delayed.


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Mar 03, 2018 13:54 |  #79

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Great!!! I didn't want to hear that !!!! :-D

I'll admit using the light weight canon 35 f/2IS with the 5dmk4 is such a beautiful combo that actually feels better in my hands than my uncomfortable grip of the Fuji X-t2 with battery grip.

OK please help me!!!!

I love UWA lenses, 24mm and starting to appreciate 35mm primes again. Also I feel there's a sweet spot in 85mm primes.

Please anyone..... what's a good suggestion???

What sony lens for a 24mm, 35mm and 85mm prime?

Any decent native UWA zoom???

I'm gonna start out slow with Sony. I guess I should get the latest Metabone adapter to ease the pain of buying lenses.

I just started my research :)

I've done 6 months of research. I've been secretly talking behind scenes with Charlie since mid november last year going back and forth ever since. He has been very valuable to me with informing me of some of the Sony tidbits. I've also seen Sony being in my future for some time which was the big push for me to go all Godox on my lighting. Just need a trigger and thats it.

As far as UWA is concerned. The best option is the 12-24 sony. Now that Sigma is releasing their primes the 24 Art would be the ideal prime. It's light weight. Same with the 35. For 85 Their 85 1.8 is really good but if you want the 1.4 then the GM is the best performer next up would be the 85 Art. Those are big though.

12-24 is a must buy for anyone who likes UWA in my opinion. Until I fully switch to native I'll have to adapt my 2.8III or my F4 IS.


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Mar 03, 2018 14:10 |  #80

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I've done 6 months of research. I've been secretly talking behind scenes with Charlie since mid november last year going back and forth ever since. He has been very valuable to me with informing me of some of the Sony tidbits. I've also seen Sony being in my future for some time which was the big push for me to go all Godox on my lighting. Just need a trigger and thats it.

As far as UWA is concerned. The best option is the 12-24 sony. Now that Sigma is releasing their primes the 24 Art would be the ideal prime. It's light weight. Same with the 35. For 85 Their 85 1.8 is really good but if you want the 1.4 then the GM is the best performer next up would be the 85 Art. Those are big though.

12-24 is a must buy for anyone who likes UWA in my opinion. Until I fully switch to native I'll have to adapt my 2.8III or my F4 IS.

The only reason to buy a 24 Art over the Batis 25 is if you need 1.4. Otherwise the Batis is optically stellar, is a purpose-built FE lens, is lighter/smaller than the Sigma.

Really the only reason to buy the Sigma *FE Art lenses is because they’re excellent optically, but relatively inexpensive. But, they’ll always be bigger and heavier than the true native lenses.

*They are sort of Frankenstein lenses because they’re just the DSLR lenses modified the adapter built in. They represent Sigma doing the absolute minimum of engineering to produce a native e-mount lens. I do, however, think the Frankenstein versions wil perform a bit better than the adapted Canon-mount versions. I am a Sigma Art lens fan, though, so my statements here are presented for factual purposes and not intended as a disparagement.


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Mar 03, 2018 14:31 |  #81

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It works with any AF capable adapter. You get metabones for hands down best compatibility. Avoid cheap adapters, they may end up working with only a few lenses.

Sigma works well too but due to past issues, I stay away.

I've bugged you in the past...many years ago about Sony.....

I will be following this thread as I'm on the preorder list.

Don't hesitate to throw me some more bones....more info the better :)

I think I need a Metabone adapter and more info on native sony glass :)


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Mar 03, 2018 14:52 |  #82

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The transition plan would be to first use Sony for portraits and learn the ecosystem that way, without impacting what I shoot a majority of the time. So senior portraits and family portraits (and just general family shots) would the first events for the Sony camera. For sports, there are times of no action, and crowd shots, I could probably move into those next with Sony.

That certainly makes a lot of sense. . I hadn't realized that you shot anything other than sports.

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Focus peaking and exposure are shown in the EVF, you don't need the rear LCD for that. You can zoom in up to 2 levels in the EVF and use focus peaking there during manual focusing.

I always think of focus peaking as being used in conjunction with touch-screen focus.

For the way I would use it in my photography, the only time focus peaking would make sense is when touching different parts of the screen to focus on very specific parts of my subject, and then examining the screen to see exactly what parts are highlighted, and then re-touching the screen to adjust focus by very fine increments.

Like, I would touch the screen at the part where the deer's eye is, and then look at the highlighted parts to see how much of the antlers are also in sharpest focus, then I would adjust things by touching, say, an area on the deer's brow just above the eye to see if that would put more of the antlers in focus while still maintaining sharpness on the eye. . Then repeating ad nauseam until I get exactly the parts of both the face and antlers that I want to be in sharpest focus.

So I see focus peaking as a very time-consuming trial and error process in order to get extremely nit-picky about exactly what things are in sharpest focus. . I am expecting focus peaking to give me the ability to scrutinize the image the way I do now when I view images at 100% on my 5k monitor. . So that it would give me that kind of precision before I even take the picture.

I remember a demonstration of focus peaking that I saw on YouTube, where this guy was taking portraits of a bearded man. . When he used focus peaking via touch screen focus on the LCD screen, it would show him exactly which whiskers of the beard were in sharpest focus and which whiskers were not quite perfectly sharp. . Then he'd touch the screen again and different whiskers would become highlighted. . He could keep touching the screen until exactly the arrangement of whiskers that he wanted came into perfect focus.

I just don't see how using focus peaking in the EVF is going to give me that kind of pixel-peeping level of scrutiny.


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Mar 03, 2018 15:00 |  #83

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The only reason to buy a 24 Art over the Batis 25 is if you need 1.4. Otherwise the Batis is optically stellar, is a purpose-built FE lens, is lighter/smaller than the Sigma.

Really the only reason to buy the Sigma *FE Art lenses is because they’re excellent optically, but relatively inexpensive. But, they’ll always be bigger and heavier than the true native lenses.

*They are sort of Frankenstein lenses because they’re just the DSLR lenses modified the adapter built in. They represent Sigma doing the absolute minimum of engineering to produce a native e-mount lens. I do, however, think the Frankenstein versions wil perform a bit better than the adapted Canon-mount versions. I am a Sigma Art lens fan, though, so my statements here are presented for factual purposes and not intended as a disparagement.

Well true.. when I think of primes I think of 1.4. But ya I get it.


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Mar 03, 2018 15:40 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #84

If you look through the viewfinder and can zoom in, focus peaking shows you exactly what is in focus as you turn the focus ring. Very handy for manual focus. I wouldn't use it on the rear LCD.


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Mar 03, 2018 17:12 |  #85

I pre ordered an A7III ...... well let's be honest here, I pre ordered TWO A7III ..... Metabones 5, grip, extra battery, and I plan on using my Canon lenses for now but I'm actually super happy with my newly purchased Sigma 135 Art so I'm going to consider the Frankenstein Sigma FE mount lenses heavily when purchasing lenses for the Sony if I end up keeping it (them). I'm losing sleep over this!


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Mar 03, 2018 17:23 |  #86

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It works with any AF capable adapter. You get metabones for hands down best compatibility. Avoid cheap adapters, they may end up working with only a few lenses.

Sigma works well too but due to past issues, I stay away.

What kind of issues with the Sigma MC11 ?


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Mar 03, 2018 18:18 |  #87

AlanU wrote in post #18576703 (external link)
Since this seems like a Canon to Sony thread :)

Do I get a metabone 4??

Eye AF work with metabone adapter????

I'm starting to see people rave about metabones V (5th generation).




  
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Mar 03, 2018 18:25 |  #88

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I pre ordered an A7III ...... well let's be honest here, I pre ordered TWO A7III ..... Metabones 5, grip, extra battery, and I plan on using my Canon lenses for now but I'm actually super happy with my newly purchased Sigma 135 Art so I'm going to consider the Frankenstein Sigma FE mount lenses heavily when purchasing lenses for the Sony if I end up keeping it (them). I'm losing sleep over this!

Please update us with how Metabone works with Canon 24-70 II & 70-200 2.8 II & 135 Art. Still thinking about buying A7III to as a second body to my Canon5D IV for weddings/engagement/po​rtraits.




  
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Mar 03, 2018 20:22 |  #89

71sbeetle wrote in post #18576863 (external link)
I pre ordered an A7III ...... well let's be honest here, I pre ordered TWO A7III ..... Metabones 5, grip, extra battery, and I plan on using my Canon lenses for now but I'm actually super happy with my newly purchased Sigma 135 Art so I'm going to consider the Frankenstein Sigma FE mount lenses heavily when purchasing lenses for the Sony if I end up keeping it (them). I'm losing sleep over this!

Where did you get the grip? Is it just an a7Riii grip?




  
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Mar 03, 2018 21:08 |  #90

I'm thinking I won't get mine until around September. The launch price here in Aus is around $2999 which is way too high. Hopefully by then the price will have dropped to around $2500 which is where it should be in AUD. I'm thinking the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 Art and Sony 85mm f/1.8 will the two lenses I get with it. I thankfully won't have to worry about AFMA and focus issues either which makes the Sigma lenses more appealing :D


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